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To: SkyDancer

This is one of those stories that is useless to respond to if one is a woman.


85 posted on 01/05/2014 10:01:37 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

But you have to admit it’s fun to tweak guys from time ti time.


88 posted on 01/05/2014 10:11:04 AM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: trisham
I don't see why this has to be a male vs. female debate.

Until quite recently in history few women got a chance to compete fully in society. OTOH, that competition for this entire period was rough enough that women of the time (and today, for that matter, if faced with the choice) were happy to be sheltered from.

In the final scene of Taming of the Shrew Kate describes how women are sheltered by men from the harshness of the world. This is used by feminists of today as an example of "false conciousness."

The problem with this is that at the time it was also largely TRUE.

Thy husband is thy lord, thy life, thy keeper, Thy head, thy sovereign; one that cares for thee, And for thy maintenance commits his body To painful labour both by sea and land, To watch the night in storms, the day in cold, Whilst thou liest warm at home, secure and safe;

...

Why are our bodies soft and weak and smooth, Unapt to toil and trouble in the world, But that our soft conditions and our hearts Should well agree with our external parts?

The world has changed, and this, in advanced societies, is no longer really true. Women are able to compete on the level with men, and in some ways have significant advantages.

But their ability to do so is largely the consequence of advanced technology, which was almost, though not entirely, created by male efforts.

97 posted on 01/05/2014 10:26:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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