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Revealed: Dispirited Obama “Shocked” He Couldn’t Get Gun Control Passed After Newtown Massacre
The Gateway Pundit ^ | Wednesday, January 22, 2014 | Kristinn Taylor

Posted on 01/22/2014 9:09:49 AM PST by kristinn

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To: kristinn

Did it really happen?


81 posted on 01/22/2014 12:28:03 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: kristinn
My only surprise, at this point?

My only suprise is that another orchestrated 'kiddy-shoot' hasn't been approved and planned at the highest levels, then executed by some anti-depressant chewing patsy.

82 posted on 01/22/2014 12:31:06 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: kristinn

“a dispirited Obama told him that he misread the “moment in political history”

Uh no, he misread the psyche of the American public. That and he apparently was never informed that he had been named gun salesman of the year.


83 posted on 01/22/2014 12:43:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SMARTY
That is not a ‘President’....that is the functional definition of a ‘dictator’.
And BTW… cemeteries the world over (HERE as well) are honored with the remains of young Americans who died to insure that Americans would never experience the latter.

Then it didn't work; as we're almost there — and the noose of tyranny is already well around our necks.

84 posted on 01/22/2014 4:24:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: jsanders2001
I think people are beginning to suspect that the WH is involved in staging many of the shootings that have become increasingly more common under his administration in order to get gun control initiatives passed

The Snady Hook / Adam Lanza incident was bizarre in its responses and aftermath:


85 posted on 01/22/2014 4:31:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto


Would this White House stage shootings to pass gun control if they thought they could get away with it? “

Would NBC rig a gas tank to explode? Would Bill Clinton wag the dog? Would hitler burn the Reichstag?


86 posted on 01/22/2014 5:06:39 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: angry elephant

WH involvement is something I thought of long ago but didn’t say so.

Now, well it’s different.


87 posted on 01/23/2014 3:48:14 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Boogieman
I don’t think they are stupid enough to take the risk of doing anything like that

What risk? With the Corporate Media in their corner FEDGOV can get away with anything.

Never forget Waco. The Clintons nerve gassed a bunch of kids and burned down a church on live TV. They got away with it scot-free.

88 posted on 01/23/2014 7:36:19 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“What risk?”

Well if that’s what you think, there’s no hope for you. You might as well just cower in your bunker in fear, because your enemies are omnipotent and can’t be stopped.


89 posted on 01/23/2014 7:43:51 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: OneWingedShark

“The weapons used/found (on the body, in the trunk).”

What’s bizarre about this?


90 posted on 01/23/2014 7:45:01 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: kristinn
Gun control would have stopped the Sandy Hook, Columbine etc. shootings? A far left pipe dream driven by people who want America to become like the poor dupes in England, Australia and other nations....defenseless. Someone should explain to this jerk why and how the Nazis were so successful in killing 6 million Jews.....
91 posted on 01/23/2014 7:47:25 AM PST by yoe
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To: Boogieman
What’s bizarre about this?

At first report the caliber of the weapons used were found in the trunk, but not on the body/at the scene; this changed two or three times in the news cycles.
Another was the style of weapon used: handguns vs. long-guns.
Another was the reports of which weapons were which; (e.g. Colt vs Winchester) which also changed several times.
Considering also that the number of rounds reported to be fired, and the number of casualties/hits, puts his accuracy as something like 90% — an amazing, and unrealistic, accuracy rate for a situation when people's fight or flight instinct is kicking to overdrive.

I can understand rushed reporting; and while there certainly was some of that, the lack of solidity on the basic details (e.g. which style of guns, which guns were used) is bizarre.

92 posted on 01/23/2014 7:59:31 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kristinn

a rare occasion when emotion did not rule the day and rationality survived.

Such a clear example of the emotion the leftists rule by versus the cognitive.


93 posted on 01/23/2014 8:04:37 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: OneWingedShark

The official statements from police were all consistent though, the only thing that changed were reports from the media. The media getting facts wrong about firearms is not bizarre, it’s par for the course. If they had actually reported accurately about the firearms used, THAT would be bizarre.

“Considering also that the number of rounds reported to be fired, and the number of casualties/hits, puts his accuracy as something like 90% — an amazing, and unrealistic, accuracy rate for a situation when people’s fight or flight instinct is kicking to overdrive.”

Really? He was shooting fish in a barrel, kids crammed into bathrooms and closets with nowhere to run. There’s nothing unrealistic about this at all.


94 posted on 01/23/2014 9:18:37 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Really? He was shooting fish in a barrel, kids crammed into bathrooms and closets with nowhere to run. There’s nothing unrealistic about this at all.

Have you tried shooting fish in a barrel?
More seriously, the excess of 90% is very impressive; unrealistically so.
Trained soldiers rarely get that high an accuracy in combat; and if you're thinking that CQB is fish in a barrel, you've never heard how the military had to adopt new tactics for urban warfare. Yes, when no one's shooting back you have less to worry about than a soldier clearing a building; but the sheer number of people moving/hiding combined with the panic of flight or flight instincts makes a hit-rate of 90% pretty damn impressive.

Perhaps not enough to on its own be bizarre, but combined with the other facts of the incident (drill-protocols followed, the lack of mandatory hazmat-cleanup paperwork, and the school being bulldozed/rebuilt) makes it stand out all the more.

95 posted on 01/23/2014 9:42:46 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Boogieman

No need for me to cower in fear. The first step to overcoming an enemy is knowing your enemy and my eyes are wide open.


96 posted on 01/23/2014 10:24:27 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Urban warfare? You’ve got to be joking. These weren’t guerilla soldiers he was fighting, it was small children cowering in fear that he was executing. You’re really grasping for straws here to try and paint this as anything other than a tragic attack by a crazy person.


97 posted on 01/23/2014 11:37:14 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Well, if they are so powerful that they have nothing to fear from committing heinous crimes so easily exposed by random internet detectives, then you probably should be cowering.


98 posted on 01/23/2014 11:39:26 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

That’s the thing. They aren’t all powerful. Their only real power derives from the terminal gullibility and chronic naivete of the public. I think that is changing. Are people waking up fast enough? That is the question.


99 posted on 01/23/2014 12:29:36 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Boogieman
Urban warfare? You’ve got to be joking.

What would you use to describe the sort of bust into a building and terrorize/nutralize occupants action-family that this, military operations in Iraq/Afghanistan, and the police/no-knock-warrant belong to?
Only a fool would say that there's no correlation/similarity: the victims/occupants in all these cases are in a building and the actions are generally a surprise (certainly they work more effectively when an overall rapid-dominance strategy is being employed).

Rapid dominance is defined by its authors, Harlan K. Ullman and James P. Wade, as attempting "to affect the will, perception, and understanding of the adversary to fight or respond to our strategic policy ends through imposing a regime of Shock and Awe."

Further, rapid dominance will "impose this overwhelming level of Shock and Awe against an adversary on an immediate or sufficiently timely basis to paralyze its will to carry on . . . [to] seize control of the environment and paralyze or so overload an adversary's perceptions and understanding of events that the enemy would be incapable of resistance at the tactical and strategic levels."

These weren’t guerilla soldiers he was fighting, it was small children cowering in fear that he was executing.

Irrelevant - In a situation as described, the methodology is rapid-dominance.
Comparing those subjected to rapid-dominance to others subjected to the same is a valid analytic — again, the situation is simply not going to be static.

You’re really grasping for straws here to try and paint this as anything other than a tragic attack by a crazy person.

I didn't say it absolutely wasn't an attack by a crazy person; the government could certainly manipulate the mentally ill. (They've done it before [~12:00-13:00].)
The other situations, like the lack of emergency-protocol and the lack of legally mandated paperwork for blood cleanup (where's the blood?) and the school being demolished/rebuilt while requiring the construction crew to sign non-disclosure agreements though cause me to seriously doubt the "official story".

Yes, I may be a heartless cynic; I may be utterly and completely in not-job conspiracy-theory land. I admit these possibilities.
I'm a Christian, I believe that Jesus was God in human form who died and raised Himself from the dead to pay for my transgressions. I admit the possibility I could be wrong there, too — as did Paul.
To do otherwise would be irrational and intellectually dishonest; but to accept the official story in the face of these valid questions is lazy and shows a dangerous disregard for truth.

100 posted on 01/23/2014 12:38:03 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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