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An open letter to the GOP on third parties and Lost causes.
The People's Cube ^ | Jan 2014 | Anonymous

Posted on 01/31/2014 8:20:24 AM PST by Voice of Reason88

By way of introduction – let’s just say I’m one of Millions of formally loyal supporters of the GOP. We are the people who donate small amounts and volunteer to make phone calls and knock on doors and do a myriad of others things we don’t like to do just to support the Republican party. We are the ordinary folks you ignore or openly insult – the people you are taking for granted.

We’re also the folks who are standing by dumbfounded as you’re doing the Democratic socialist’s bidding of creating a whole new underclass of Dem voters granting amnesty to the illegal invaders.

Do you really think there is any point in sticking with you people since you seem to be obsessed with defeat? Do you actually think that we’ll stick by you no matter what? Did people stick with the Titanic as it was sinking below the waves?

You say we will lose if we don’t support the party – well, we’re going to be losing anyway so ‘what difference does it make?’ [To coin a phrase]

I intensely dislike traipsing around strange neighbourhoods and knocking on doors for hours on end – but I did that for the good of the party.

I cannot stand calling people on the phone to go through inane call scripts – but I did that because I thought it was important for the future of the country. I helped prepare mailers and did other grunt work because I knew the country is on the edge of a precipice.

I tried to support you people whenever I can and what did it get my brethren and me? [Aside from the derision from fellow Conservatives that think we’re fools for continuing to support you losers]

Let me fill you in on a couple totally freaking obvious facts that have escaped your well healed notice: ~ A). The Leftist-Socialist National Media is NEVER GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND – learn this really obvious fact and put it in big block letters over your desks so you can remember it.

Say it yourselves 100 times until you learn it – they are the propaganda arm of the Socialist Democratic national party and they cannot be appeased, and they certainly won’t be your friends. They must be defeated along with the main body of the socialist national left in this country.

Those people need to be defeated, not befriended. They are playing for keeps – we need to do the same. In Alinsky’s rules for tools, he refers to us as the ‘enemy’ – well it’s time we did the same.

B). The Media and the DNC are going to label you Racists, terrorists or whatever unless you cease to be Conservatives and become a variation of their Socialist selves.

Stop trying to answer their mendacity and label it for what is and move on – for once you end up on the defensive, they will keep you there. Take a page from the leftists and push a Conservative agenda instead.

The Socialist National left is like a baseball batting machine that incessantly hurls fast balls at your head. Its an unceasing process that will never stop

The minute you shoot down one their outright Lies, two more will be on your way.

C). Never do what the enemy wants you to do – this is so blindingly so obvious the great strategist Sun Tzu didn’t bother saying this self-evident truth.

So, what do you need to do to get us to stick with you and get us back into your good graces?

Good question [{I’m glad I asked it}

1). STOP SUPPORTING AMNESTY FOR 30 MILLION NEW DEMOCRATIC VOTERS.

[Can I be any more emphatic on that point?]

Mark my words, you can either drop the insane idea of amnesty for the illegal invaders or you can destroy the party - It’s your choice.

Pushing amnesty will either create 30 Million new voters for Democratic largess or it will fractionalize the party so badly that it will no longer be the ‘Loyal opposition’ to the Socialist National left.

The GOP will be deader than a Bull Moose as a result – does that sound like a winning strategy?

Either way will mean one party Socialist Democratic national party rule for now until Armageddon.

2). Stop insanely nominating Rinocrats in the futile hope that the media will be ‘nice’ to you and not put the full weight of their propaganda machine to work shredding said candidate.

How many times do you need to repeat that insanity before you learn the lesson?

3). Stop trying to outbid the socialist with government largess

You can’t outbid people willing to destroy the nation just attain some temporary power.

It should be plain that you need to stand up for Conservative values – that is the only thing that will save the country from it’s inevitable demise at the hands of the socialists.

IF you do not do those simple things to save the party and save the nation, I will bid you a quick goodbye and be on my way – along with millions of others.

You can stuff your endless appeals for my donations, and your admonitions to volunteer will fall on deaf ears.

We may be on our way to defeat with a third party – but we will do it with our head held high and our Conservative principles intact.

There is no earthly reason to stay with a sinking ship – and you people are heading straight on for an iceberg – and sadly, you don’t seem to know it.

We can and we will leave – many already have and the exits are getting pretty jammed up.

I can envision many of my Conservative colleagues yelling back at the paper – Hey, where have you been sister? We abandoned the stupid party years ago.

Let me just say in my defense that in most abusive relationships, each has their personal breaking point – many have already reached and are beyond that point. I dare say that if the current events hold to the trends as they are now, many more will join them – as will I.

- Anonymous


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To: polymuser

It seems like that is the case – Obama says he wants to go the pen route dictator like and the Rino’s roll over like good little lapdogs.

There is no point in staying with a losing party – that is the bottom line.


61 posted on 01/31/2014 11:09:00 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Voice of Reason88

n 2010 the Congressional Gee Oh Pee RINOs were happy to welcome the energy of those who were TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.

The opposite is true today.

The major change happened in 2012 and 2013 when RINO John “Benghazi Coverup” Boehner refused to appoint a Special Prosecutor for Commie Obama’s IRS harassment of TEA Party Organizations.

By this single arrogant protection of Obama, Speaker Boehner became enemy number two for members of the TEA Party.

Additionally, the RINOs want to replace Obamacare with Boehnercare, Ryancare or RINOcare, which proves that RINOs support the continuance of the taxation punishment of working Americans by the illegal Commie mechanism of Mandatory Insurance Taxation.

Lenin would be very proud of both Obama and Boehner.

Any support of Democrats or RINOs is support of Commie Obamacare or its neo-Commie derivatives.

History has shown that most voters have made up their minds by July Fourth, and thus a Convention held after that date is pointless.

The best way to drum the RINOs out of the Republican Party is a massive write in campaign.

If we want to change the Political Party Controlled Voting System, then WE MUST USE THEIR SYSTEM AGAINST THEM.

Only Democrats voted for Obamacare, and therefore all Democrats are to be opposed.

RINOs propose “fixes” to Obamacare, and therefore all RINOs are to be opposed.

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Suggested Checks and Balances on Doormat RINOS, Democrats and the Leftstream Media:

!.) Send no money to the DNC or the RNC.

2.) Hold a TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY National Party Convention on April 22, EVERY YEAR FROM NOW ON.

3.) Flood the RINOs taxpayer paid office staff with all manner of irate communication every Wednesday FROM NOW ON.

4.) Write in or leave RINO slots blank on election ballots.

5.) Remember that as of 1-1-2014 we are now a Neo-Communist nation, thanks to Obamacare and our own doormat Congressional Cave In RINOs, and hold rallies and marches to remind the low information voter of that fact.

6.) In 2014 we boot out the RINOs.

7.) In 2015 and 2016 we give the action-based “TEA Party Numerical Constitutional Rating” on every Republican or Independent Federal Politician.


62 posted on 01/31/2014 11:10:11 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: redgolum

And that will work out fine for a short time until the economy implodes, then commie left will be gunning for them.


63 posted on 01/31/2014 11:10:51 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Dick Bachert

Yeah, the country isn’t circling the drain fast enough, let’s open the floodgates and really flush it down.


64 posted on 01/31/2014 11:12:49 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: Voice of Reason88
This needs to be heard by the 'Geniuses' at the GOP

Conservatives mean nothing to the GOP anymore. It was obvious even before they tried to shove McCain and then Romney down our throats.

If the GOP doesn't care about my beliefs, I don't care about their beliefs. Let them cater to the Socialists and the criminal invaders.
65 posted on 01/31/2014 11:21:32 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: RinaseaofDs

did you notice in the new farm bill that members of Congress do not have to disclose how much they receive in farm subsidies??


66 posted on 01/31/2014 11:21:58 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Personal Responsibility
What’s the point in electing Republicans if they act just like Democrats? Why should we elect a GOPe / RINO when they’ll agree to every piece of Democrat legislation to “get along with their friends across the aisle”?

Exactly. Don't give us liberals with ( R) next to their names and tell us they are somehow different than liberals with (D) next to their names.
67 posted on 01/31/2014 11:22:48 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: PapaNew
Looks like an opinion to me.

Is that your considered opinion?

Why do you care?

68 posted on 01/31/2014 11:41:45 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Voice of Reason88

Sample Letter for US Representatives:

Dear Honorable US Representative ...

Sir, I am extremely upset with this latest sham amnesty immigration proposals the US House of Representatives is currently considering.

Words cannot express my anger at the utter foolishness of these proposals. Rewarding criminal behavior encourages more criminal behavior. People cannot begin their careers in America by breaking the law. Further, it hurts minimum wage American workers by causing them to compete with millions of foreign workers. I am dismayed at those in Congress who lack the understanding of this critical issue to our nation.

I like most Americans are in favor of legal immigration for those who are willing to learn our language, culture, and invest the time and money required to become a U.S. citizen - but not for those who willfully break on our laws, spit on our country, demand benefits, and are not willing to go through proper channels to become an American citizen.

What is the solution? It won’t be easy because we didn’t get into this situation overnight. I believe we need to do the following immediately:

1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law
3) Not allow any amnesty provisions of any kind
4) Improve our visa system
5) Prosecute and fine those businesses which knowingly employ illegal workers
6) Give law enforcement officials the necessary resources and authority to combat illegal immigration
7) Deport illegal aliens violating the law after being fingerprinted, photographed, iris scanned, charged with a felony, and their information placed in a national database.
8) Send a bill for deportation/prison costs to the embassy of the illegal immigrant’s national origin.
9) 2nd time and thereafter repeat offenses by illegal aliens should be sent to work prison camps for a maximum of 6 months - building the southern fence/wall.
10) Seize and liquidate all assets from illegal aliens and use the proceeds for our military and local law enforcement.
11) Must not give illegal immigrants government welfare benefits of any kind, including Social Security
12) Designate English as our national language
13) Change the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants
14) Mandatory proof of citizenship for voting
15) Mandatory proof of legal status for DL or ANY government issued ID or benefits card
16) Put pressure on the Mexican government and other nations to reduce illegal immigration to America.
17) Encourage only legal immigration and citizenship to for those wanting to become Americans.

These ENFORCED changes would strengthen America greatly.

Please consider voting against any illegal immigration amnesty bills should they come before the full House floor.

Sincerely and respectfully,


69 posted on 01/31/2014 11:49:05 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: Graewoulf
Well worth repeating:

Suggested Checks and Balances on Doormat RINOS, Democrats and the Leftstream Media:

1.) Send no money to the DNC or the RNC.

2.) Hold a TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY National Party Convention on April 22, EVERY YEAR FROM NOW ON.

3.) Flood the RINOs taxpayer paid office staff with all manner of irate communication every Wednesday FROM NOW ON.

4.) Write in or leave RINO slots blank on election ballots.

5.) Remember that as of 1-1-2014 we are now a Neo-Communist nation, thanks to Obamacare and our own doormat Congressional Cave In RINOs, and hold rallies and marches to remind the low information voter of that fact.

6.) In 2014 we boot out the RINOs.

7.) In 2015 and 2016 we give the action-based “TEA Party Numerical Constitutional Rating” on every Republican or Independent Federal Politician.

In addition I would suggest not patronizing the Neo-Commie Media.

70 posted on 01/31/2014 11:51:37 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Then they must be living in a fools paradise, they’ll have to live with the consequences of their traitorous actions.


71 posted on 01/31/2014 11:54:13 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: polymuser
Only a real, energetic, boots-in-the-mud groundswell will change our situation. And time’s running out.
And enough of the elites to make a change. That is the issue. The upper echelons of both parties live in the same neighborhoods, go to the same clubs, have the same basic worldview.

We don't need a new party, we need a conversion of those who rule.
72 posted on 01/31/2014 12:08:08 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Voice of Reason88

Study history.

They will just leave the US, and let a few front men hang. There is some indication they are doing that already (look at the number of expats).

And who funds the commie left? Who directs them?


73 posted on 01/31/2014 12:10:18 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sometimes only the lost causes are truly worth fighting for. A Good 3rd party could be munted in ayear—with the right people it could make a real difference. WE should bolt the GOP—for the 3rd party—or take over one of the existing 3rd Parties. The Liberty Party. Our cousens across the pond have started the UKIP— They are pointing the way.


74 posted on 01/31/2014 12:11:25 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: itsahoot

Should “opinion” be called “news”? That’s my only and simple point here.


75 posted on 01/31/2014 12:19:45 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: RKBA Democrat
Exhibit A: the Libertarian Party.

Not a Conservative Party, ignores Social Conservatives, as did Barry Goldwater. No party that ignores Social issues will ever change the Socialist parties, either of them.

76 posted on 01/31/2014 12:21:35 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
"I can think of several. None of which involve more than a cursory involvement in electoral politics, which at this point is truly the road to perdition for conservatives."

The country is already on the road to perdition. If a solution is not found soon, the USA will become another entry in history books.

77 posted on 01/31/2014 12:25:07 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Lions Gate

Definitely worth quoting and re-posting to send to the congress critters.


78 posted on 01/31/2014 12:51:03 PM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: PapaNew
Should “opinion” be called “news”?

No hard and fast rules. Mods mileage will vary. Speaking for myself, when it could potentially spur lively debate I'll let it ride in Frontpage.

And sometimes we like watching the tree shake to see what (read: who) falls out.

It's also red meat.

79 posted on 01/31/2014 12:52:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: redgolum
And who funds the commie left?

Take a look at the list released from the Center for American Oppression:

Center for American Progress releases donor list
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/center-for-american-progress-donor-list-101140.html

The liberal think tank Center for American Progress on Friday revealed that it’s funded by some of the country’s largest and most powerful corporations, trade associations and lobbying firms.

Major donors to the group and its affiliate social welfare nonprofit Center for American Progress Action Fund include major retailers, energy interests, health care companies and other corporate actors who spend millions on lobbying and influence peddling in the nation’s capital, according to a list posted on the center’s website.

Those corporations and trade associations represent a cross section of corporate America and include Walmart, Goldman Sachs, Google, defense giant Northrop Grumman, T-Mobile, Toyota, Visa, GE, among others. CAP did not disclose the donation amounts.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, or AHIP — a major player in the health care debate contributed to the group, as did Hollywood’s advocacy arm, the Motion Picture Association of America. Other corporate donors include Microsoft, PepsiCo, Samsung, CVS Caremark, Comcast NBCUniversal and many others.

The firm also has a number of major K Street lobbying firms on the corporate donor list including Akin Gump, the Glover Park Group, Livingston Group and the Downey McGrath Group. All represent dozens of corporate and nonprofit clients.

80 posted on 01/31/2014 12:57:25 PM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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