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Georgia Senate Passes COS Application
conventionofstates.com ^ | 2/4/14

Posted on 02/04/2014 3:08:58 PM PST by cotton1706

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To: Jacquerie
>> The common contention that congress had authority over the 1787 convention is another example of deceit making its way around the globe before the truth gets its boots on.

Since you replied to my post why not address the content of that post?

Which is little different than the Convention called by Congress on February 21, 1787 (obviously not an art. V convention as that did not yet exist) which specified that states were to choose delegates for “the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation”. Those delegates threw out the Articles of Confederation.
The point of that post is that the 1787 Convention was called for “the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation”, a limited call just as the current call is intended for limited purposes.

Boilerplate doesn't address the point.

81 posted on 02/05/2014 7:27:39 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Hostage

Well then why not enlighten me instead of hurling your nastiness?


82 posted on 02/05/2014 7:30:50 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: cotton1706
“The prohibition repeal amendment ...”

This amendment was a simple repeal of the national experiment, proved to be unwise. A constitutional convention is the dream-come-true for those who wish limitations be removed from government powers. You may notice, those who cheer for the constitutional convention have yet to declare what proposals they endorse. Restore the Republic? Yes, that would best be accomplished by repeal of the Seventeenth (direct election of senators), not by a wholesale rewrite.

83 posted on 02/05/2014 8:38:13 AM PST by Daffy
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To: Daffy

“Yes, that would best be accomplished by repeal of the Seventeenth (direct election of senators), not by a wholesale rewrite.”

Yes, but how do you get that to happen without going through the congress (the senate would never vote on it and it would fail). The answer is a convention to propose amendments to the states.

And proposals have been put forward. Have you read Mark Levin’s book?


84 posted on 02/05/2014 8:45:13 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

My Senator on that list


85 posted on 02/05/2014 9:24:10 AM PST by vg0va3
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To: Ray76

The burden is on you to explain and defend your ignorant statements about the FairTax Rebate because you first raised it up. I merely said you were ignorant which is a fact.


86 posted on 02/05/2014 9:36:57 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Ray76; Hostage
Huh? Then why repeat historic nonsense?

The congressional resolve was 100% irrelevant, of no force whatsoever. Delegates were responsible to their states, not congress.

The modern purpose of the irrelevant resolve is to cast specious, ignorant doubt on the legitimacy of the subsequent constitution. Almost every opponent of Article V at FR trots out this strawman garbage.

87 posted on 02/05/2014 9:56:16 AM PST by Jacquerie (Natural Law cannot be repealed.)
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To: Hostage

I stated the prebate was a gimmick. That’s my opinion. I’ve you want to persuade me do so. Insulting me is dissuasive.


88 posted on 02/05/2014 9:57:50 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Jacquerie
Again, it is not who called the convention but that it was called for a limited purpose
89 posted on 02/05/2014 9:59:57 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Jacquerie; Ray76
Here it is, chapter and verse, in Madison's own words.

Federalist #40

90 posted on 02/05/2014 10:02:26 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius; Ray76
Very good. Even if congress had authority, it was ridiculous hair splitting to deny the product of the federal convention.

For Ray76: If, as you say, the federal convention so egregiously overstepped its bounds, why did congress pass the draft constitution on to the states?

91 posted on 02/05/2014 10:36:31 AM PST by Jacquerie (Natural Law cannot be repealed.)
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To: Ray76

So then defend your statement that the Rebate is a gimmick.

Only morons make statements without backup.

And it’s not nastiness or insult, it is ‘instruction’.

So I will wait for your essay which I sense will not be forthcoming because you don’t have anything. And should you surprise me, I stand ready to rip to shreds the argument because I have seen it all.


92 posted on 02/05/2014 10:39:06 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Grow up.


93 posted on 02/05/2014 11:15:39 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Hostage

Thank you for the correction. I’ve updated my prose to reflect what you told me.


94 posted on 02/05/2014 12:35:34 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: cotton1706
“... how do you get that to happen without going through ... congress... The answer is a convention ...”

The first two words in Article V are, “The Congress” which is empowered, either to propose amendments, or call a convention upon demand by the states. There is no getting around congressional involvement, and they have resources available to bewilder (think; an army of lawyers, and money flowing in a torrent). If a convention is called, Congress will have its way.

“Mark Levin’s book?”

No, I haven't read it, but did see the interview on C-SPAN’s Book TV two or three weeks ago; a very good man. Have you read “Homage to Catalonia” by George Orwell? As a younger man, he went off to “fight against fascism” in the Spanish Civil War. If you'd like a view of hardball politics (meaning brutal and dangerous), check it out.

95 posted on 02/05/2014 2:47:35 PM PST by Daffy
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