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1 posted on 02/07/2014 4:27:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Well.....if white men in America are still responsible for
black slavery (even though as many whites were enslaved as blacks in early America) then it would be logical to assume that the current crop of Germans are culpable for the conduct of those who committed atrocities before they were born. Liberal progtard logic.....it’s a strange and wonderful thing...but it’s not logical.


2 posted on 02/07/2014 4:29:44 PM PST by nvscanman
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Gobbledygook!


3 posted on 02/07/2014 4:30:07 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Has the Atlantic ever asked if white Americans can still be held morally responsible for slavery?


4 posted on 02/07/2014 4:30:15 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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Are today’s Russians morally responsible for the Holodomor and the Gulag?

100 million dead want to know


6 posted on 02/07/2014 4:30:29 PM PST by Regulator
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Nope.


7 posted on 02/07/2014 4:31:35 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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Not so much.

Supporters of 0bama? Guilty.

8 posted on 02/07/2014 4:32:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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No, they are not responsible for the WWII Holocaust, their only responsibility is to not allow another. To prevent another Holocaust is the responsibility of us all.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 4:34:17 PM PST by madison10
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What are Jewish traits? My answer would be that they are very close families that drive their children toward excellence. That, apparently, makes slackers uncomfortable, hence the backlash.


10 posted on 02/07/2014 4:34:29 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I would say they are not morally responsible for the
holocaust. They are however morally responsible to
see that it doesn’t happen again.


11 posted on 02/07/2014 4:34:53 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Today’s Germans are not responsible for the murders by their parents. That they have a sense of history and that many care for Israel is wonderful But they do not bear their parents’ guilt (as Christianity and Judaism teach).


13 posted on 02/07/2014 4:35:49 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C?d)
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I don’t hold today’s Germans responsible for that, but I do hold them responsible for their actions today. In light of that, I have a very dim view of the E. U. as a whole, the way they clearly treat Israel unfairly. It’s a Jewish state, and if anything Europe should go out of it’s way to make it clear they won’t entertain any more antisemitism in their ranks.

Alas they do with a certain level of pride in it.

Can’t express firmly enough how much I detest that contingent in the E. U. ranks.


15 posted on 02/07/2014 4:37:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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“Don’t mention the war.”


17 posted on 02/07/2014 4:39:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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The current crop of Krauts has less responsibility for the last Holocaust than we do for the next.


18 posted on 02/07/2014 4:39:55 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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At the end of the book, Mounk declares New York his new home, savoring the blandness of being Jewish in a city of 1.5 million Jews. “A true New Yorker is one who has come to the city in quest of something,” he writes. And quest he does: Throughout the book, Mounk seems to be searching for historical anonymity, a place where he won’t feel defined by the ancestors who suffered before him.

Whatever anonymity Mounk may have found, though, he should know that it’s an artificial refuge. He himself has argued persuasively that identities are inextricably bound to past persecution. Leaving Germany doesn't diminish his ties to the country's conflicted history, and arriving in New York won't keep him from becoming part of the United States' own set of racial tensions. All his life, Mounk has felt like a stranger in his own land, but unfortunately, every land bears the weight of historical wrongs.

A persuasive argument against multiculturalism and diversity. We have already entered the era of tribal politics in the US.

We have 45 million foreign-born in this country, not counting their American born children. In 1970 one in 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8 the highest in 80 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7--the highest in our history. 87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who enter annually are minorities as classified by the USG. By 2043 we will be a minority-majority nation for the first time in our history.

We are sowing the seeds of our own demise.

19 posted on 02/07/2014 4:46:39 PM PST by kabar
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“Are Today’s Germans Morally Responsible for the Holocaust?”

NO!


20 posted on 02/07/2014 4:46:50 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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Everyone has to have a victim. Everyone has to be a villain. Its a political jungle out there.


21 posted on 02/07/2014 4:46:52 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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NO. They weren’t even alive.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 4:48:44 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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Of course this Emma Green from the Atlantic appears to be a liberal trust funder. Hold your nose and look at the type of articles she writes. Very predictable.


25 posted on 02/07/2014 4:52:14 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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If my father dies owing $10,000 on his Visa card, I am not responsible for paying it. They can take it out of his estate, but they cannot force his debts upon me. Why do people think they can make the current generation pay for what another did? It makes even less sense in America; slavery was 150 years ago and the families of a good many of people living in America today did not even come to this country until after slavery was already outlawed. If an Pole came here five years ago, is he responsible for slave reparations? He had nothing to do with it and gained no benefit.


26 posted on 02/07/2014 4:52:33 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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Perpetual guilt is mainly a leftist notion which has been used over the years to tug at people’s moral sympathies and induce them to support self-defeating policies of various sorts.

There’s a Latin concept called “mortua manus” (dead hand). It’s a metaphor for actions of the past controlling the destiny of the present. This was often seen as a negative thing, since the present has its own duties and priorities.


27 posted on 02/07/2014 4:53:35 PM PST by seacapn
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