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To: BfloGuy

“You should really think about this.”

I have thought about it, and fully stand behind it. I did not say that either President Bush did not make mistakes - some serious. I said they are both preferably to any “Paul” or Libertarians.

I would rather have a “big government” IF it has a conservative bent, than the ANARCHY that Libertarians envision.

There is no doubt, in my thinking, that the Patriot Act has been abused. IMO - criminally so by the Obama administration. However, I understand why it was enacted when it was. Like ANY law, it can be abused in the hands of unsavory leaders, or those appointed by them. Eric Holder is unsavory, as it President Obama.

There has not been a POTUS, to include President Reagan (Ronald Magnus) that has not made mistakes...often bad ones. Look at some of his SCOTUS appointments. But, he is still a great POTUS, and although I would not equate either President Bush with President Reagan, I would still consider them “good” - especially compared to the democrats that held the position of POTUS.

A Ron Paul administration would have been a disaster as bad as Mr. Obama, and Rand Paul is no better. Big “L” Libertarians like the Pauls should stop running as Republicans and screwing up the primaries.

God Bless Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, regardless of errors they made. And my God spare us from Libertarian anarchists and isolationist fools.


22 posted on 02/09/2014 7:34:00 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
"I would rather have a “big government” IF it has a conservative bent"

Once again you prove yourself not conservative. No real conservative would ever utter such nonsense. Big government is evil, period. Both Bushes were Big Government progressives, but at least HW was competent, W was not. W's policies (grow government, spend more, nation building wars, etc) ruined the country.

23 posted on 02/09/2014 7:53:14 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Sola Veritas
I would rather have a “big government” IF it has a conservative bent, than the ANARCHY that Libertarians envision.

You make a mistake by throwing all libertarians into the anarchy camp -- that's a pretty small contingent. Rand Paul is no better. Big “L” Libertarians like the Pauls should stop running as Republicans and screwing up the primaries.

Well, we disagree there. Rand Paul is much more reasonable than his father, in my opinion.

God Bless Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush, regardless of errors they made.

All three, good men. The latter two, however, weren't too concerned with individual liberty. That's a mistake I don't take lightly.

31 posted on 02/09/2014 4:05:07 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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