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Do Stars Who Self-Destruct Bypass Hell Because They Entertained Us?
Townhall.com ^ | February 9, 2014 | Doug Giles

Posted on 02/09/2014 7:01:10 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Interesting question.

I suppose it is theoretically possible to be a drug user and also in the state of grace at the moment of death.

...as an aside I’d point out that after WWII there were many rapidly discharged GI’s who were addicted to morphine as a result of wounds received.

After the war jobs were plentiful, addicts could work, keep a low profile, pay taxes, and support their drug habit...until caught by the authorities.

Not that I am in any way supporting drug use.

Divinely inspired scripture has warned us against the danger of wine{=recreational drugs} but to my knowledge does not proscribe its use. I suppose the ‘everything thing in moderation’ rule might apply.

If we’re made in Gods image then our bodies are in a way, a temple, so abusing our bodies to the point of death is NOT good. But that can be applied over to many things.

Hell is an absolute reality but would the practicing Christian who is front loaded with grace, works and current in the partaking of all the available sacraments go to hell for some recreational drug use? NO!

We’re all sinners to some degree that’s why Jesus suffered and died.


41 posted on 02/09/2014 8:11:37 AM PST by exPBRrat
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42 posted on 02/09/2014 8:12:20 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: cornelis

If you want to think that you as a sinner can say, “Yep, Mikey went to heaven and George is burning in hell”.. then go ahead. Not me... not my role as a Christian or as a sinner. I can only say that I believe Hell exists and that we are all judged by God if we enter into His Kingdom. Can I say that X is a sin? Yes. However, I can’t say what God chooses to do.


43 posted on 02/09/2014 8:13:04 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

I think you’re missing the point of the article.


44 posted on 02/09/2014 8:14:30 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Kaslin

E! News not discussing the whereabouts of dead celebrities eternal souls seems to be an odd thing to be concerned about.


45 posted on 02/09/2014 8:15:21 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: cornelis

I’ll drink more coffee and revisit. LOL!


46 posted on 02/09/2014 8:16:34 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Kaslin

I’ve wondered that, too.

What if Groucho didn’t make it into heaven? Would that mean no Marx Brothers’ movies in heaven?


47 posted on 02/09/2014 8:19:32 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: momtothree

Coffee won’t do. Some Johnathan Edwards for you. P )


48 posted on 02/09/2014 8:19:40 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Kaslin
Did it get defunded like ACORN?

LOL...

Actually ACORN just changed their stripes...

49 posted on 02/09/2014 8:20:18 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

uhm maybe you need to refresh your memory of the parables dealing with situations such as you described where sinners are redeemed and are entitled to an eternity in Heaven- and rememeber Christ Himself spoke these parables -And remember the good thief as well ? he was a common criminal crucified next to Christ and he acknowledged Christ as the Messiah and Redeemer -what did Christ tell him ?
so all I can quickly come up with are the parable of the prodigal son,and the 1 of a group of laborers in a vineyard and everyone got the same wages paid even those that showed up hours later and did less work.
God’s Law and God’s ways.


50 posted on 02/09/2014 8:20:28 AM PST by catroina54
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To: qman

“As mortals we are incapable of anything more than speculation based on little evidence and the word of god!”

In a great many cases, the evidence is sufficient. I suspect the number of people who make a conversion in the last 5 minutes of their life is rather small.


51 posted on 02/09/2014 8:23:10 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: real saxophonist

Pointing out that someone is on the road to perdition is not a sin.

It is more likely that someone who says “it’s all good” is the one going to Hell.


52 posted on 02/09/2014 8:31:24 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

While there is a Hell and many will go there I tend to be persuaded by the argument that in each individual case it is up to God to put people in hell. Human judgment is suspect as to what specific individual will or will not go there. Is drug addiction a sin? It is perhaps a sin only by analogy to drunkenness. Biblical people did not know of morphia and its derivatives and God did not bring it up. I don’t know only God does. By the way of course the media’s moral judgment is degenerate and ultimately evil and hopefully people will wake up and suppress its foulness.


53 posted on 02/09/2014 8:32:06 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

God doesn’t determine a mans ultimate destiny....Man does either by accepting or rejecting who God has provided to take our judgement and punishment. You choose to reject Christ or not...Deny/Reject Christ and you’ve set your ultimate place for eternity ....

MAn sends himself to Hell...God would have ALL mankind to be saved from it and provided the way through Christ Jesus.


54 posted on 02/09/2014 8:38:13 AM PST by caww
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To: momtothree

Agreed


55 posted on 02/09/2014 8:42:21 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: caww
God doesn’t determine a mans ultimate destiny....Man does...

Tell that to God.

56 posted on 02/09/2014 8:48:37 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin

Preach it, Doug!


57 posted on 02/09/2014 8:54:29 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Kaslin

Good grief. Do people actually sit around and think this crap up?!?!?! YES Mr. Dummy, this guy is going to hell if he never accepted Christ as his LORD and Savior! Period. There IS NO OTHER WAY. I think Yeshua made that plain and simple in the Bible.


58 posted on 02/09/2014 9:09:37 AM PST by RetiredArmy (All that call upon His name shall be saved! HE is the ONLY way to heaven. Only HIM!!)
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To: momtothree
I will not decide/point to and say that their soul should be in hell. That is between each and every individual soul and God. No one else. He is the judge.. not me. Only God knows truly what in in our hearts.

I agree with your line of thinking. It is not for me to decide how others are judged in the afterlife. I always find it odd that some self-proclaimed Christians out there presume to judge for God. Can't they just be content to let God sort it out? Some of them actually seem to take a perverse pleasure in judging and condemning other souls to eternal hell. I've always been a bit disturbed by that self-righteous behavior.

59 posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:19 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: P-Marlowe

....”Tell that to God”””...

Not necessary as He already told us... as it’s written:

He that believeth on him is not condemned.... but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil” (John 3:16-19).

If one is a believer he will go to heaven. If he has rejected God then he spends eternity separated in hell.

Hebrews 9:27, says, “. . .it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.” ....This judgment is to determine ‘rewards for the believers’ and ‘degree of punishment for the lost’.

It is solely a matter of ‘the grace of God’ given to all who receive Jesus Christ as their Savior by faith alone. Eph. 2:8-9

God does not want men to perish. Heaven and Hell are both personal
choices that each individual makes while here on planet earth. God provided for man’s salvation through the work of His Son on Calvary’s cross. Romans 5:6-8. If men reject the Savior, they go to hell by their own choice.


60 posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:21 AM PST by caww
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