Posted on 02/09/2014 9:50:58 AM PST by rktman
No doubt there were problems with the recently considered background check bill. Every proposal has flaws. But the way to eliminate those flaws is to propose sensible amendments. David says that a true universal background check law would easily pass. I can’t disagree more. There is no will among staunch gun rights advocates for such a law—and they did everything in their power to prevent one from being enacted.
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It doesn’t even make sense to keep guns out of the hands of felons since all that does is keep track of law abiding citizens and felons don’t bother asking for permission.
I forgot to remind pro folks of the anti’s “messaging guide” link. Just so you know their plans to “properly” message how to get anti-gun messages out there.
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf
The most logical and “sensible” gun law there need be is merely party affiliation. Anything other than democrat/progressive and you just sail through. Democrat/socialist/progressive, you’re denied, put under observation for 15 days, etc...
A weak attempt to move the Overton Window. Let's move it back. Gun control is unconstitutional. Those who propose it in any form are traitors. Now, let's talk about what we should do with traitors.
I’ve now arrived at the point in this subject where I consider the words “sensible” and “reasonable” as absolute red flags that indicate I’m about to hear or read the musings of a moron.
No more gun control.
Not one bit. Nothing.
Stop it, and start rolling back gun control laws.
there always going to be people who live outside the law so making new laws is a farce. to me the country has lost it’s moral compass. we have a whole generation that has grown up on violent video games who don’t know right from wrong
Criminals have and will continue to posess firearms without background checks. Criminals already own and conceal carry handguns without permits. It’s time law abiding citizens did the same.
what on earth is “meaningful gun control”?
What is termed “reasonable” becomes very “unreasonable” when it is used by local law enforcement! The word “reasonable” has been given to the communist to be used in order to suck in the American people to once again, support just another bite on the shit sandwich until the American people have eaten the entire sandwich and the American people wake up and find out they no longer can possess firearms unless you work for the government!
Texas Women
A TRUE STORY FROM... “THE HOUSTON HERALD” HOUSTON , TEXAS
Last Thursday night around midnight, a woman from Houston, Texas, was arrested, jailed, and charged with manslaughter for shooting a man 6 times in the back as he was running away with her purse.
The following Monday morning, the woman was called in front of the Arraignment Judge, sworn-in, and asked to explain her actions.
The woman replied, “I was standing at the corner bus stop for about 15 minutes, waiting for the bus to take me home after work. I am a waitress at a local cafe.
I was there alone, so I had my right hand on my pistol in my purse hanging on my left shoulder. All of a sudden I was spun around hard to my left. As I caught my balance, I saw a man running away with my purse. I looked down at my right hand and saw that my fingers were wrapped tightly around my pistol.
The next thing I remember is saying out loud, “No Way Punk! You're not stealing my pay check and tips.” I raised my right hand, pointed my pistol at the man running away from me with my purse, and started squeezing the trigger of my pistol.
When asked by the arraignment judge,
“Why did you shoot the man 6 times?
The woman replied under oath, “Because, when I pulled the trigger the 7th time, it only went click.”
The woman was acquitted of all charges. She was back at work the next day, on Tuesday!
NOW That's Real Gun Control,
The possession of a firearm should never be licensed or criminal in any way. The improper use of the firearm is what needs to be regulated. It should be perfectly legal for anyone to own a fully automatic, sound suppressed, short barreled rifle if they want to. However, use it to rob a bank or shoot up a mall and you have committed a criminal act that is prosecutable. Just like a hammer, owning a hammer is not illegal. If I bash someone’s skull in a mall parking lot, I have then committed a crime and should be prosecuted. The simple act of possessing something dangerous should never be criminal. If it was, then everyone with a pencil, a hammer, a frozen whole fish, or a fist should be jailed immediately.
All gun control eventually leads to tyranny. Whether it be soft or hard tyranny there is no other outcome.
Dump NFA 34 and GCA 68 and all the BS since.
Yup, any man too dangerous to own a gun is a man too dangerous to walk the street.
To “them” it is only “meaningful” if “they” control your guns.
This guy makes the best argument that can possibly be made. It fails on a number of accounts, but here are two that stand out:
He admits that criminals can obtain guns without going through a background check, but contends that it’s worth it to make it “harder” for them. Silence about the imposition on law abiding citizens.
Since keeping guns out of the handguns of real criminals seems to be out of reach, he argues that we need to do it to keep guns away from “felons” and “mental cases”. We all know what a criminal is, but what about a felon? Are the terms synonymous? No, felons are so defined by government and we are all probably guilty of one felony or anther. Likewise mental illness is largely defined by government and in many cases can be determined by government entites without judicial due process.
The gist of his argument, therefore is, we can’t stop real criminals from getting guns, so let’s do the next best thing and prevent as many non criminal citizens from doing the same thing. Our safety and security depends on being able to keep firearms out of the hands of the likes of Martha Stewart.
—”common sense” needs to be on the list, also-—
Well, martha has been known to “shoot” off her mouth on occasion.
That being said, I "loan" some of my guns to relatives. I'm reasonably certain (more so than the government could determine)that they will not be using them in illicit activities.
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