[circlecity]

"In fact, several alternatives to AA do exist. HAMS, for instance, is a harm reduction program that encourages addicts to complete small, realistic goals such as slowly reducing alcohol or drug use. There is also the Secular Organizations for Sobriety, a method that emphasizes participants need not submit to a higher power as AA requires them to do. There are many other addiction recovery options."

And just what is the track recrod of these alternatives for producing long term sobriety?

[frogjerk]

And just what is the track recrod of these alternatives for producing long term sobriety?

Who cares? As long as God is not a part of it, then it must be better according to the modernists.

[GOP Poet]

exactly.

[Jeff Chandler]

And just what is the track recrod of these alternatives for producing long term sobriety?

What is the track record for AA?

(Anecdotal evidence does not count.)

[discostu]

Pretty much all of the programs (including AA) have about the same success rate of about 20% for 1 year with each further year reducing a bit. There’s a few really crooked ones with much worse success rates (and high profitability), but all the ones that are actually trying to help people score about 20%. In the end it’s mostly about effort, people willing to put in the work will find a method that works for them, people that aren’t will look like they’re trying and fail.

[jimt]

And just what is the track record of these alternatives for producing long term sobriety?

How dare you ask such a question ? These alternatives are pimping the latest theories ! They're recommended by professionals (meaning people who do it for money).

[tomkat]

.. a harm reduction program that encourages addicts to complete small, realistic goals such as slowly reducing alcohol or drug use ..

Good luck with that        d:^)

[CityCenter]

It’s not about the program itself, it is about the individuals willingness to work the program.

Addictions are very hard to overcome because the substances people embibe actually alter the brain’s physiology. This is why the call to use personal willpower is so misplaced. This also accounts for the rate of relapse. But if a person can actually submit themselves to their recovery and work on it each and everyday, there is hope.