Posted on 02/15/2014 6:14:40 AM PST by LD Jackson
The end of the Electoral College means that the Dems will be the permanent majority party. The Electoral College is the result of Federalism and states' rights. The Dems will pile up huge majorities in the urban areas and in big states. The GOP will never win the WH again.
So you would like the US President to be elected solely on the whims of the densely populated cities? By the same populations that have the highest percentage of government dependency, the lowest percentages of workers, the least effective education, the lowest levels of civilized behavior, the highest crime rates, and obscene levels of vote fraud?
You must really like this current administration, because that's what would result, with little chance of changing the outcome.
To our eternal shame (and regret, for those of us out here in red red PALabama)
Only in the case of Rhode Island, Hawaii and Puerto Rico (in the future) do Democrats subscribe to the requirement.
Had they their way, they’d have DC represented by voting Senators.
A good article about this effort can be found herehttp://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2012/11/electoral-college-imperfect-but-preserves-federalism-best
I am sure that this bill is DOA in the House. Also Senators who voted for it are receiving a lot of flak here. My Senator is the author of the bill, but is not running for reelection so he deserted his voters. He plans on becoming a lobbyist, so I wonder that he did this to help his new career.
I’m appalled. My guy, a Republican, voted for it.
consider the power of Article V in that each state has 1 vote, regardless of population
We will become like the empires of yore, mega cities which dominated vast swathes of surrounding countryside for their own aggrandizement - kind of like Chicago controls IL.
Absolutely correct. Doing away with the Electoral College or tying electoral votes to the national totals is the sure path to One Party Rule, the Democrat Party dream of the near final victory.
The final victory will be when 1) they mandate that everyone of voting age MUST vote or be subject to some IRS levy and 2) job candidates will be rejected when applying for jobs unless they prove they are loyal Democrat Party members.
Its coming.............its only a matter of time.
“Good. We should get rid of the Electoral College anyway. An utter and complete anachronism. And getting rid of it is about the ONLY chance we will have of ever winning the WH again.”
It’s great to see here on FR when a liberal raises it head from under a rock, people who want to do away with the Electoral College are either leftists, of do not understand how and why it was set up in the first place.
A wise Freeper one posted a numeric breakdown of if the EC was gone, which and how may big cities it would take for the Dems to take and hold complete control of our nation. It was about as many as you listed without the ad nauseum. Was scary.
Direct election of the POTUS remembering the 2000 election could make the election uncertain. Imagine the endless recalls we saw in Florida being repeated in all 50 states in a close election.
It is best to institute tyranny with as little fanfare and public discourse as possible. Thank him for us.
But do it kindly and in an educational manner.
Here are the vote results.
http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf/2013-14%20SUPPORT%20DOCUMENTS/votes/Senate/SB906_VOTES.HTM
“In fact, I think there should be within the states, a similar system with each county having only a certain number of votes. In Nevada, two cities determine every election outcome - Las Vegas and Reno, And often, Las Vegas alone determines how the state goes in elections (Las Vegas is a solid democrat city).”
This is close to the `Congressional District’ method of awarding Electorial votes. A county by county method might not be too bad either. I think the EC may need some tweeking, but not it’s removal.
You’re absolutely right. Let’s say 70% of Oklahoma votes against a presidential candidate, but that candidate wins the national popular vote by a tiny margin. Let’s say that candidate is also hard left, directly opposed to Oklahoma on virtually every issue, and his or her margin of victory comes from a couple big cities, like Chicago or New York. Finally, let’s say the election hinges on Oklahoma’s electoral votes. This COULD happen.
Given the above scenario, what kind of fool would vote to give away Oklahoma’s power to decide the election in a way that would serve Oklahoma’s interests????
Without the Electoral College, the Presidency would be determined by our large urban areas- which are only fit for nuclear weapons testing sites. No thanks.
The Electoral vote MUST stand.
I do thing, however, that the states should take it upon themselves to split the votes based on vote totals in the state. For instance, WI has 10 electoral votes, if the vote in WI goes 60/40 then 4 electoral votes should go to the lesser voted for candidate so as not to silence those voters.
Another interesting thought would be to give state electoral votes based on voter turn-out. WI has 10 votes, if only 40% of the people turn out to vote, we only get 4 that year.
Just some thoughts, don’t crucify me. :)
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