Posted on 02/16/2014 7:03:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
How does one “go to the hospital” to see a doctor? Walk in the emergency room? Do hospitals actually have family physicians and GP’s? I thought hospitals only had specialists? How does this work?
In other words, we are going back 2,000-3,000 years in our health care. Either you cannot afford it, or you will be turned down. If you are over 50 your chances of getting major surgeries will go down. It costs more to keep you alive. Younger people, who normally do not need all these things done as older people do as our bodies break down, will pay for it only to not get to use it when then get older. ANYONE stupid enough to think the government is going to take care of you when you get old is simply stupid. The government does not want to take care of a bunch of 65-80’s people. They want us gone. Off the books. Not using up medical services. Not getting social security. Not using medicare. Simply gone and OFF the books.
Most of the new doctors coming in to the Veteran’s Medical Center here in Maine are mid-age doctors who closed their private practices to work for the VA.
My family also have 2 specialists who closed shop and are now on the payroll of hospital groups.
One of my elderly Swedish relatives went blind waiting for cataract surgery. While crying at again being moved down on the list a nurse told her, “Look, you’re elderly, you have no social value. You will never get this surgery.” She became so depressed that she died shortly after. Think of how much money the government saved to give free care to their new Muslim immigrants.
Most doctors are now government employees. Or might as well be, given all the laws and regulations that our “limited” government has put in place for them.
If the govt at 30% of the economy won’t be allowed to grow to 100%, they’ll accomplish the equivalent with regulations.
“Death Panels” are alive and well.
It's the opposite. In the hospitals the doctors come to see you. For example, if you in for a head injury you will be seen by a dozen doctors including a podiatrist. This is a true story BTW. The reason is that each doctor can bill the government (in this case medicare) for the full cost of a visit after spending just 5 or 10 minutes checking the patient. Medicare only pays part of the amount of course, and the medicare supplemental only pays a bit of the rest. But it's better than the alternatives at this point.
The Democrat's plan is working.
A few months ago, I stopped by the office of my late parents' M.D. to say hello to the ladies; they filled me in on the fact that the doc had chosen to forego all the hassles of "private practitioner" (billing, insurance, malpractice, etc., etc.), and that the office gals had to get schooled to do their duties the way the hospital proceeds.
I was thinking we need to go back to pay the doctor when you go to the doctor like when I was a kid. There were no co-insurance payments. You went to the doctor you paid the doctor. Insurance was for catastrophic events.
-— I was thinking we need to go back to pay the doctor when you go to the doctor like when I was a kid. There were no co-insurance payments. You went to the doctor you paid the doctor. Insurance was for catastrophic events -—
Yes. Bit one important difference is that medical technology has become much more complex and expensive.
This can be accounted for with Rand Paul’s suggestion to sell 40-hear health insurance policies, like 25-year life insurance policies.
“Yes. Bit one important difference is that medical technology has become much more complex and expensive.”
The main reason its more expensive is due to insurance. My Mom is on Medicare so when she goes to our doctor its $175.00 when I go to the same doctor and pay cash its $40.00
“Yes. Bit one important difference is that medical technology has become much more complex and expensive.”
The main reason its more expensive is due to insurance. My Mom is on Medicare so when she goes to our doctor its $175.00 when I go to the same doctor and pay cash its $40.00
After 21 years in “Private Practice” I saw the writing on the wall. I quit and now work in a Hospital. There is NO Private Practice. Has not been for a long time. Obamacare was the breaking point. The practice I left is now having severe financial problems as I knew was coming. I left before the fall.
And the doctor worked for you. You scrutinized the bill. You made the decision about what course to take for treatment.
When the insurance I had through work switched to an HMO, that all changed. I never liked it. The HMO paid for the doctor's visit, but the downside was they determined my treatment.
The new medicine is more about public health than providing for individual differences. A patient is a data point, to be evaluated accordingly.
There was a TV news segment a few months ago about an innovative medical practice that was scheduling annual medical checkups for groups of people. Can you imagine the pressure to get tests and vaccines etc without thinking about it when one is part of the group?
We basically already have “government” healthcare. It’s where most of the money is coming from after being taken at gunpoint from the taxpayers.
-— My Mom is on Medicare so when she goes to our doctor its $175.00 when I go to the same doctor and pay cash its $40.00 -—
In a truly free market, third party payments drive up costs, but not that much. Hospitals bill the insurance companies more to cover the costs of non-payers.
“How does one “go to the hospital” to see a doctor? Walk in the emergency room? Do hospitals actually have family physicians and GP’s? I thought hospitals only had specialists? How does this work?”
What I’ve seen locally is doctors going to work for large “health corporations”. There are a few near me operated by Health Quest. They also own 4-5 hospitals in the area. The days of the one man or several doctor practices are disappearing.
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