Posted on 03/03/2014 7:32:33 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
With Vladimir Putin’s dispatch of Russian troops into Crimea, our war hawks are breathing fire. Russophobia is rampant and the op-ed pages are ablaze here.
Barack Obama should tune them out and reflect on how Cold War presidents dealt with far graver clashes with Moscow.
When Red Army tank divisions crushed the Hungarian freedom fighters in 1956, killing 50,000, Eisenhower did not lift a finger. When Khrushchev built the Berlin Wall, JFK went to Berlin and gave a speech.
When Warsaw Pact troops crushed the Prague Spring in 1968, LBJ did nothing. When, Moscow ordered Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski to smash Solidarity, Ronald Reagan refused to put Warsaw in default.
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One wonders if Pat Buchanan and Richard Nixon did not share a wee bit of anti-Semitism? One would think so by Nixon's recorded remarks, yet he did send support to Israel at the existential moment.
Whatever Buchanan's other failings, he has been right on a lot of things and it is a pity that we did not heed him on those other things over the past decades.
True!
The official title of the tsars was 'Tsar of all the Russias', meaning 'Great Russia' (Russia), 'White Russia' (Belorus), and 'Little Russia' (Ukraine). You're talking about something like letting some Russian company just walk off with Guam or Puerto Rico.
Thank you for that little bit of help in understanding things, Bibi. Maybe you can help us understand our moral duty in policing the world when Likud finishes handing us our orders. I never knew you had an account here, but it is comforting to consider it.
Not that I’m a pacifist but one should remember that we entered World War I with Woodrow Wilson (Progressive Movement), World War II with FDR, the Korean War with Truman, the Vietnam War with John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson, and Afghanistan with Bill Clinton.
Remember this next time people start talking about all the war mongers.
We're not dealing with Iraq or North Korea here, but the big bear itself, and in case no one has noticed, we're outgunned right now in the worst possible way.
Food for serious thought.
Well, I’ve sure seen a lot of chest beating around here on FR over the past week.
Perhaps for threads like this we should define a few terms for us unenlightened: conservative, paleoconservative, neoconservative. Not who, but what are you talking about? Or maybe who after you define what. Throw in a when and how and wherefore while you’re at it. We just need to be sure the “name-calling” is justified.
They just did comply with my demand for a referendum (March 30).
I respect what Putin did here to protect Crimea.
On this issue I stand with Putin and I reject Ted Cruz who made ignorant comments on this matter.
Who was Putin protecting the Crimea from? I didn’t see that anyone was attacking it.
We’re certainly out-leadered.
This was co-engineered by the European Union; don’t let their posturing fool you. They are looking for any excuse to form a military union and shut the USA out.
Crimea was a major supporter of the elected Ukrainian President. He was driven out in a coup so democracy ceased to exist for the Crimean people. How did our founding fathers feel about not having a vote?
Very sad that we’re back to the 1950s in geopolitics. We’re sliding rapidly back towards the 1930s too.
As for “elected”, that’s a cheap term these days, which is even sadder. After all, people like Mohammed Morsi in Egypt were themselves elected.
“... Imports to US from Russia: $26,961,500,000 ...”
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Man, that’s a whole lot of wodka!
One of Obama’s favorite operatives.
No doubt Russia has assets in the area and has legitimate reasons for trying to protect them.
As concerned as we are, we have as much right to get involved over there as Russia would have if all-a-sudden there was a civil war in Mexico or Canada.
If we renege on our agreement with the Ukraine, then we should at least replace their 5000 nukes.
(Illustrating absurdity by being absurd.)
I believe this is the most myopic thread I have ever seen on FR. There are MANY effective things we can do without attacking Russia directly. But, whether or not Russia controls Crimea is just the little stuff — Russia pretty much did, in fact, if not in name, anyway. The repercussions of the US reneging on a major security assurance of this nature are something else: It pretty much guarantees a sizeable nuclear war (dozens to hundreds of warheads used, IF it is limited to that) somewhere down the line. Not necessarily in this region, though...
As concerned as we are, we have as much right to get involved over there as Russia would have if all-a-sudden there was a civil war in Mexico or Canada.
Russia did not coerce Mexico or Canada into giving up 5000 nukes and promise protection in return.
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