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I like Michelle but disagree with her here. Her position is based on the canard that Jews care about Jews, and are separate from the nation they live in. The fact of the matter is that most Jews vote on other issues which relate to their homeland, and that's not Israel. As a demographic American Jews tend to be liberal on domestic issues, and it's fair to say as the demographic most opposed to the Iraq war (I know, us neocon Jews caused it, but we're a minority in the community), they wouldn't support aggressive actions on the part of Israel any more than America. We can all talk this out, after all. Of course as a small minority, if America "sells out" Israel (Israel will cope), it will be America doing it, all of us, mostly Christian. My guess Michelle wins no votes for Republicans here

44 posted on 03/05/2014 5:36:35 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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It isn’t theirs to sell.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 6:18:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Well, as a right-wing pro-Israel American Jew, I don't take offense to anything Bachmann is saying. Nor is she anti-Semitic nor is she buying into any canard. There's no excuse for the Jewish Left's embrace of Obama, and for its failure to realize that he had anti-Semitic as well as anti-Israel proclivities from his upbringing as a leftist radical, in addition to his friendships with Islamist radicals, all deeply ingrained in his ideology and experience. For many Jewish voters to be uneducated or blind to his history, plus the tyrannical changes he's bringing about in the US and his foreign policy disasters, is shameful.

Bachmann, on the other hand, had an extensive exposure to Israel as a teenager, and has always been pro-Israel and philo-Semitic. Her husband comes from a Swiss family which saved Jews from the Nazis during the Holocaust. Sorry to see she's stepping down from elective office now.

BTW, the headline on the posted article is deceiving. Bachmann didn't say all US Jews are selling out Israel. She was limiting her critique to Jewish Obamatons.

47 posted on 03/05/2014 6:23:57 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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My guess Michelle wins no votes for Republicans here

Yet the greater her Honor, and I believe, her reward in Heaven.

50 posted on 03/05/2014 7:50:01 PM PST by onedoug
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I like Michelle but disagree with her here. Her position is based on the canard that Jews care about Jews, and are separate from the nation they live in.

But Jews are separate from all other nations, by definition. This separation is similar to that between the holy and the secular and Shabbat from the rest of the week and is mentioned as such in the havdalah prayer.

`Am Yisra'el is a Theocratic nation in exile and until the "enlightenment" was actually an autocephalous religious community. And things were probably better back then (there were no "branches," for one thing).

True, HaShem through the Prophets and Sages instructed Jews to be loyal to their lands of exile and to pray for them. But Jews are first and foremost the ancient Jewish Theocratic polity in exile, and that must never be forgotten. The fact that it has been is why Judaism has been turned into a mere "religion" with liberal "denominations."

55 posted on 03/06/2014 8:14:28 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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