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Rand Paul is not the guy for 2016 but Ted Cruz might be
renewamerica.com ^ | March 20, 2014 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 03/21/2014 2:24:28 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Rand Paul is an appealing candidate to many conservatives. But he has a fatal libertarian streak on social issues that will make his candidacy in 2016 a non-starter for convictional conservatives.

According to Breitbart.com, Paul is urging the Republican party to "soften on social issues." But this is the one thing it cannot do and remain the Republican party.

The GOP was founded in 1854 to fight slavery and bigamy, those "twin relics of barbarism." In other words, the GOP came into existence to declare and defend a principled stand on the two leading social issues of its day.

Says Paul,

"I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues. The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don't want to be festooned by those issues."

(I'm not sure "festooned" is the word he was looking for here, as it means "a decorative chain or strip hanging between two points," but his overall meaning is clear.)

Let's take Paul's template and see if it would work for the GOP in 1854 on the leading social issue of its day. Would Rand Paul have said that because of the need to grow the party, we must "agree to disagree" on slavery? Hardly. And it would not have mattered how many "millennials" thought otherwise.

The Republican party changed history precisely because it decided not to "agree to disagree." It took a stand on the most significant moral issue of the time and told millennials and everyone else, here's where we stand. If you stand somewhere else, then your home is in the Democratic party, the party of slavery.

There certainly were many at the time that thought it was political suicide to take such a fixed stand on such a controversial issue. "Why, if we're going to grow this party, we've got to have a big tent on social issues. We've got to make room for slaveholders if we don't want to alienate half the country. We just ought to keep the government out of the slavery business, and just leave that whole issue up to individuals. That's how you get the young'uns on board, tell 'em they can have their slaves if they want 'em because we're gonna be the party that wants to keep the government out of those pesky social issues."

To waffle on the major social issues of the day would have been wrong for the GOP in 1854, and it's just as wrong in 2014. The GOP did not go soft on slavery, and every black man in America today has the GOP to thank for standing without compromise on the side of the unalienable right to liberty.

If the GOP wouldn't go soft on liberty because of pro-slavery millennials, it shouldn't go soft on marriage because of pro-sodomy millennials.

Christianity says unambiguously, "Let marriage be held in honor among all" (Hebrews 13:4). I looked up the word "all" in the Greek lexicon, and it means "all." That includes you and me, Sen. Rand Paul, the GOP, and the United States of America.

The GOP needs to grasp that leadership is not capitulating to pro-homosexual millennials, but persuading them of the superiority of natural marriage.

That's not as difficult as it sounds. Millions of millennials know the pain and heartache of fractured homes and the soul-crushing impact of divorce. They want something better for their marriages and their children, and they need political leadership that will raise the guardrails that protect natural marriage, not lower them.

There is much I admire about Sen. Paul. He is principled and unbudging on matters of his political convictions. This makes him an enormous force for good when he is right, and a danger when he is wrong.

On marriage, he has made it clear that he will not fight for the fundamental social values that have made America morally and spiritually strong. What good is it to have a country in which the government is not listening in on the phone calls of millennials if their lives have been wrecked by family implosion and their bodies ravaged by sexually transmitted diseases?

Liberty unrestrained by morality is just license. We've had enough of that to last us for the rest of the century.

Ted Cruz, on the other hand, was asked by the Des Moines Register to respond to Sen. Paul's "Let's just go AWOL" on social issues. He said,

"There are some who say the Republican party should no longer stand for life. I don't agree with that. There are some who say the Republican party should no longer stand for traditional marriage. I don't agree with them either. I think that we should continue to defend our shared values....We should continue to defend life and we should continue to defend traditional marriage."

Bottom line: when it comes to 2016, Rand Paul is not the guy. But Ted Cruz might be.


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To: Drill Thrawl
Did not expect Breitbart to hit us with a “Paul is racist” article.

"Paul is racist"? Where'd he say that?

21 posted on 03/21/2014 3:07:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: onedoug
Federal prison, bribery and influence-peddling charges. (Other than being Out of Step.)
22 posted on 03/21/2014 3:07:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You could go to any leftist/Democrat site and read about how Rand Paul leans dangerously to the right on social issues. Are both sides correct?


23 posted on 03/21/2014 3:09:25 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: lentulusgracchus

I read that to be an encapsulation of what Ted Cruz thinks, not the writer’s own POV. Guess you read that differently?

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Of course. Ted Cruz does not speak of himself in the third person. He’s no Bob Dole.

This is an encapsulation of what everyone thinks. Unless they are a Paulbot.


24 posted on 03/21/2014 3:11:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GSWarrior

Says Paul,

“I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues. The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”


25 posted on 03/21/2014 3:12:44 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The problem for many Republicans and conservative voters is that they are fatally purists and readily dismiss a candidate permanently if they don't pass the test 100%.

Liberals, on the other hand, will take the chosen candidate regardless of any warts, fallacies, illegalities, or lies and vote like zombies.

Conservatives are generally more principled people and the strict adherence to those principles splits us and we lose.

26 posted on 03/21/2014 3:13:17 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

By slyly implying that he would have supported slavery. The word slavery is used 6 times just on the excerpt.


27 posted on 03/21/2014 3:16:24 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The potential exists that CA, in early June 2016, could decide the GOP nomination.

Let's hope not.

The ideal would be a strong, consensus candidate locks everything up early.

But CA has been the deciding state in past close races.

Goldwater in 1964.

CA ALMOST put Reagan over the top in 1980.

There are oodles of delegates there and Paul would have an advantage. Maybe one he's counting on.

28 posted on 03/21/2014 3:17:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: dainbramaged
He and Trafficant shop at the same Roadkill Hairpiece Shoppe...


29 posted on 03/21/2014 3:17:56 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Drill Thrawl; lentulusgracchus
By slyly implying that he would have supported slavery. The word slavery is used 6 times just on the excerpt.

Sorry, your the one implying that Breitbart is calling Paul a racist. I see no implication there, just you trying to discredit the author of this article, for whatever your reason is, with a very, very shaky foundation of logic.
30 posted on 03/21/2014 3:21:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Well, I took the reference to slavery to be a historical reference to the GOP's roots, and an attempt to point out that when one takes away the social issues, you are left with a rootless party that cannot prosper.

He took the long way to say something I agree with, which is that without social issues, the GOP is gutless and people will reject it as such. They'll spit out a party that is just a bunch of bankers singing for their suppers. (Howbeit that that has been a major element of the GOP since 1856: catering for the old Whig financial interests in the East Coast's financial and manufacturing centers.)

31 posted on 03/21/2014 3:22:16 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: The Iceman Cometh; Berlin_Freeper
The problem for many Republicans and conservative voters is that they are fatally purists and readily dismiss a candidate permanently if they don't pass the test 100%.

The problem with GOP-E types and Libertarians is that they expect conservatives to put their principles on the back shelf, shut-up and support candidates that directly go against their most important principles.

Then their supporters go around falsely claiming that they are purists.

Paul, with his support for Amnesty, and his surrender on Social Issues, is not someone a committed and principled conservative can support.

He's a dead man walking where the nomination is concerned and doesn't even know it yet.

By walking away from the social issues, he's not fit to be POTUS. He is not a leader.
32 posted on 03/21/2014 3:24:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

As far as I’m concerned Cruz is not a might be...but a must be.

We need a man of vision, strength, trustworthiness, and Conservative all around values.

A man who’s leadership expects the other guy to compromise, because he is right, too much work to do for some one who is not dedicated turn this ship around, by taking charge; not willing to sacrifice integrity for popularity.

Cruz 2016!


33 posted on 03/21/2014 3:25:27 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SoConPubbie

By repeating (six times) that Rand does not support social issues and comparing that to the GOP founding on the social issue of anti-salvery it is clear that the implication is that he is for slavery, therefore racist.


34 posted on 03/21/2014 3:25:51 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
....then tries to sneak the other stuff past us, on his way to concluding that "Paul's gotta be the guy". Paulbot bullsqueeze from the git.

Ummmmm, I may have misread the writer's intentions on this one. Now I'm not sure where he was going with all the pattyfingers stuff on social conservatism. He may be trying to point us toward Ted Cruz rather than boosting Paul, which is how I read the article originally.

Comments?

35 posted on 03/21/2014 3:28:01 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Take gay marriage, for example. Apparently Paul would prefer to leave it up the states. To many on the right this is the same as supporting gay marriage. To many on the left this is the same as opposing gay marriage. People hear what they want to hear.


36 posted on 03/21/2014 3:28:02 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Drill Thrawl
I think he's trying to point out that Paul's out of step with the GOP's history of supporting social issues.

Not that that's accurate or anything .... you could argue that the RiNO's don't care about social issues and never have done, except as cudgels with which to beat the voters to the polls to vote for the Fortune 500's candidate.

37 posted on 03/21/2014 3:29:51 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GSWarrior; Berlin_Freeper
You could go to any leftist/Democrat site and read about how Rand Paul leans dangerously to the right on social issues. Are both sides correct?

Well, let's see....

Anything to the right of Obama is considered leaning dangerously to the right to Democrats. They lie a lot.

Rand Paul has made it quite clear by his words that he wants to give social issues a much less prominent position in GOP Policy.

So, No, both sides are not correct. The Democrats are lying, but you knew that, and conservatives have correctly assessed that Rand Paul is not all that conservative because of Rand Paul's own words.

Add in his support for Amnesty, his continued support for GOP-E McConnell and against the Tea-Party backed Bevin, and the assessment of Rand Paul not being truly conservative is complete.
38 posted on 03/21/2014 3:29:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Well, I took the reference to slavery to be a historical reference to the GOP's roots, and an attempt to point out that when one takes away the social issues, you are left with a rootless party that cannot prosper.

The first time that comparison was made I agree with your assessment but since the social issue\slavery comparison was made six times it went in a different direction.

39 posted on 03/21/2014 3:30:31 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: GSWarrior
Take gay marriage, for example. Apparently Paul would prefer to leave it up the states. To many on the right this is the same as supporting gay marriage. To many on the left this is the same as opposing gay marriage. People hear what they want to hear.

Sorry, but trying to put Gay Marriage in the States Rights column only ensures that Gay Marriage win, across all of the states because of the "Equal Protection Clause" of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Therefore, by extension, Rand Paul is supporting Gay Marriage.
40 posted on 03/21/2014 3:31:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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