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To: MinorityRepublican
As the Kremlin began its invasion of the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea last month, a days-old government in Kiev turned to its military to stem the tide. There was an immediate problem: No car batteries for the military vehicles.

These are the sorts of problems corrupt governments run by crony-capitalists will face. I've said before - I am not sure Ukraine is a nation. Its a multi-ethnic appendage that fell off a leprous and dying Soviet Union. It also has the lowest birth rate in Europe. They sound rather like a group of cynical people who don't have much interest in surviving as a nation.

The West wants it to be a bulwark against Russian expansionism, but its a pretty sad horse to bet on.

3 posted on 03/24/2014 8:24:50 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Rebuilding Ukraine’s army is an expensive undertaking and the country doesn’t have the cash to do it.

All it can hope is the Russians will calculate an invasion is too expensive for them.


4 posted on 03/24/2014 8:27:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PGR88

I don’t think the Obama team is smart enough to think that far ahead, is if it would be ahead at this point.

Obama is a reactionary, and he really doesn’t give a carp at all about the situation in the Ukraine. If it humiliates the West, he couldn’t be happier.

The only reason why he’s acting like he cares at all, is because the public perception weighs heavily on him. If he just blows it off, he becomes a total idiot in the eyes of the public.

If he acts like he gives a rip, he can at least play the “well there’s only so much we can do” card. Then he can go upstairs, put up his feet land laugh out loud, “As if I give a rat’s ass!”

I don’t think it’ wise to play up the differences within the Ukraine. The country has lasted 22 years. It hasn’t been a hot-bed of trouble. For the most part it has been reasonably well adjusted. I agree that it’s government has made mistakes. Frankly, look at ours over the last 22 years.

The Ukraine deserves at the very least, our moral support. If Putin sees a complete rejection of his actions, and the perception building in the West that he is coming very close to looking like Hitler in the 1930s, it may cause him to weigh his actions more heavily.

We should not as Conservatives be telegraphing a green light by trashing the Ukraine every chance we get. Perhaps there’s some reason to. Is it going to be productive right now to do the dirty laundry in public?

What Russia did was wrong.

The Ukraine needs to get back on track, and left alone it will. Russia needs to pull it’s nose back onto it’s face and back off.


6 posted on 03/24/2014 8:42:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: PGR88

“I am not sure Ukraine is a nation. Its a multi-ethnic appendage that fell off a leprous and dying Soviet Union. It also has the lowest birth rate in Europe. They sound rather like a group of cynical people who don’t have much interest in surviving as a nation.”

There is certainly enough of a common heritage, language, etc. for a nation, though I don’t know it would have the size/shape it currently has. In the south in particular, I don’t know how many people are “Ukrainian”.


22 posted on 03/25/2014 4:09:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: PGR88
The West wants it to be a bulwark against Russian expansionism, but its a pretty sad horse to bet on.

Are we any better? We can't even get them (Ukraine) batteries (or a way to obtain them) in under several weeks? Putin must be LHAO.

30 posted on 03/25/2014 9:20:47 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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