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Pope Francis raises abortion, religious liberty in candid meeting with Obama
Life Site News ^ | March 27, 2014 | BEN JOHNSON

Posted on 3/27/2014, 11:24:18 PM by NYer

Rome Correspondent Hilary White contributed to this report.

ROME, March 27, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In their first face-to-face meeting, Pope Francis reiterated the Catholic Church's concerns with President Barack Obama's policies on abortion, conscience rights, and freedom of religion.

A source familiar with the talks told LifeSiteNews that the Vatican press release on the meeting was "remarkably forthright" in emphasizing the fact that the pope raised these issues with the president.

According to the press release, the pope launched a discussion with the American president about the proper role of church and state, raising “questions of particular relevance for the [Catholic] Church in that country.” These included “the exercise of the rights to religious freedom, life, and conscientious objection,” according to the Vatican.

The 52-minute-long meeting marked Obama's first audience with Pope Francis. The divide between the Obama administration and the Catholic Church has deepened since his meeting with Pope Benedict XVI in 2009, with broiling arguments over the president's promotion of abortion-on-demand, same-sex “marriage,” and the HHS contraceptive/abortifacient mandate.

The USCCB has spoken out against the mandate that employers provide female employees with contraceptives, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs with no co-pay. Pope Francis today restated their concerns that the ObamaCare policy forced Catholics to violate their deeply held religious beliefs.

The policy even impacts American nuns. The Little Sisters of the Poor do not automatically qualify for the Affordable Care Act's constricted religious exemption because they serve non-Catholic poor, and refuse to sign a waiver implying their approval of contraceptive use. “We believe the government's attempt to coerce us in this manner is wrong, and that it violates our religious liberty,” the Sisters said last year.

The Supreme Court has yet to rule on the mandate's constitutionality.

Pope Francis presented President Obama with a copy of his apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium ("The Joy of the Gospel"), which criticizes some public figures who attempt to marginalize the pro-life message by presenting it as “ideological, obscurantist, and conservative.”

“This defense of unborn life is closely linked to the defense of each and every other human right,” Pope Francis wrote. “It involves the conviction that a human being is always sacred and inviolable, in any situation and at every stage of development.”

The president said he may look at it. “You know, I actually will probably read this when I'm in the Oval Office,” Obama responded, “when I am deeply frustrated, and I am sure it will give me strength and will calm me down.”

The pope and President Obama pledged their mutual support to eradicating human trafficking around the world.

However, the Obama administration cut all federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' efforts to combat human trafficking in 2011, because the group refuses to refer pregnant women for abortions.

Some observers had expected this morning's meeting inside the Vatican to sidestep contentious moral issues in favor of greater economic intervention. Before their meeting, Obama told the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that Pope Francis gave “great moral authority” to his call to address income inequality between “those at the very top and the income of the typical family.”

“It isn't just an economic issue,” the president said. “It's a moral issue.”

However, it is not clear from the Vatican that the issue of economic redistribution was raised.“We hope the takeaway from today’s meeting is not a photo-op used to promote the President’s partisan domestic agenda,” Maureen Ferguson, senior policy adviser for The Catholic Association, said. “Today’s meeting comes at a time when the Obama administration is battling the Catholic Church in the U.S. over her right to be Catholic – fighting all the way to the Supreme Court to force people of faith, including nuns who care for the poor, to violate Church teaching or face massive government fines.”

International tensions were addressed, as both the pope and President Obama are deeply involved in the current tensions between Russia, Crimea, and Ukraine.

Vatican officials described the meeting as “cordial.” President Obama walked past the ceremonial Swiss Guard and shook Pope Francis' hand, bowing slightly.

For his part, Obama presented Pope Francis with a collection of seeds from the White House garden in a chest made from the first Catholic cathedral in the United States, after hearing that the pope enjoys gardening.

“His Holiness is probably the only person who has to put up with more protocol than me,” Obama joked, referring to the two men's respective meetings with foreign dignitaries and attendant security details.

Also present at the meeting were Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin and Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, the Vatican's secretary for relations with states.

The previous day, Pope Francis met with another American delegation led by Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia, an outspoken critic of the HHS mandate and proponent of appropriate Christian engagement with the political sphere.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; obama; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; vatican; zero
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To: RichInOC

Why would he say when “ I’m in the Oval Office” It’s like he feels like he still has to impress people that his office is the Oval Office. He’s really insecure underneath all his lying and bravado. By the way, I can’t believe the Mooch would miss the publicity of meeting the Pope.


41 posted on 3/28/2014, 2:51:40 AM by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl; RichInOC
Why would he say when “ I’m in the Oval Office” It’s like he feels like he still has to impress people that his office is the Oval Office.

Legitimacy issues wear away at the conscience of a usurper. The guilt is keeping him up at night. Even the chair he sits in reminds him his behind isn't worthy of warming it.

42 posted on 3/28/2014, 2:56:38 AM by thecodont
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To: lavaroise

I would love to hear what the Pope and all those other people in the room say about BO. Probably pissed they have to do a photo op with him to help his poll numbers.


43 posted on 3/28/2014, 2:57:53 AM by dandiegirl
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To: LucyT
King 0bama bowing to the Pope...


44 posted on 3/28/2014, 3:23:45 AM by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: dandiegirl

Obama has a problem in that he probably is not the first “hot shot” piece of crap the Pope or the Catholics had to deal with. Heck, the Albanians are right next door with their violent prostitution ring.

But communist madness is communist madness, they seek no opposition and genocide. There is a limit to this sort of smuggling but they do not think so, heck, it is their utopia.


45 posted on 3/28/2014, 4:18:29 AM by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: thecodont; dandiegirl

I’m just thinking that unless I’ve greatly misjudged where he stands, a lot of that document is not going to calm him down.


46 posted on 3/28/2014, 4:19:20 AM by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NYer


47 posted on 3/28/2014, 4:51:17 AM by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Trying to convert the pope to the latest cool muslim sin. Yep. Nothing new there from idiots.


48 posted on 3/28/2014, 5:07:57 AM by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: COBOL2Java

The Anti-Christ meets the Vicar of Christ.


49 posted on 3/28/2014, 5:45:24 AM by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Ms. Blunt

He sure does look tense. Gee, his bottom’s clenching...where’s Reggie when you need him?


50 posted on 3/28/2014, 6:40:46 AM by itssme
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To: MeshugeMikey
obozo is weird and extreme...always trying to give the impression that his moves, emotions, control of the situation is always first and foremost. The only move missing in the picture is the pose of his extended right hand/wrist, faggy style.
51 posted on 3/28/2014, 6:45:59 AM by itssme
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To: NYer

I’m glad it wasn’t all just fluffy niceties.


52 posted on 3/28/2014, 8:28:34 AM by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer
You won't here much about that, in the MSM.
53 posted on 3/28/2014, 8:37:24 AM by Berlin_Freeper
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To: NYer

The timing, giving the SCOTUS arguments this week, is fishy.


54 posted on 3/28/2014, 10:47:53 AM by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: NYer

Very interesting to me that ‘conscientious objection’ was a great thing when used in Muhammad Ali’s defense, but is absolutely unacceptable when it comes to forcing abortion and other things down peoples’ throats per Obamacare.


55 posted on 3/28/2014, 11:12:00 AM by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: NYer

When someone in leadership sits behind a desk that means he or she has some very serious “stuff” to discuss.


56 posted on 3/28/2014, 11:37:31 AM by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: lavaroise

....Because they know they will lose.


57 posted on 3/28/2014, 11:39:06 AM by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: lavaroise

.....Or rather it is the Pope who is witnessing for Christ.


58 posted on 3/28/2014, 11:40:05 AM by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Today while driving home, I heard FOX NEWS report that Obama announced that he and Pope Francis discussed and focused on — Poverty and Income Inequality. He never mentioned any discussion of abortion in his statement to the press at all.

See here:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/politics/obama-pope-meeting-politics/


Trying to co op the Pope into his class warfare game.

Reminds me of a saying, “The Lord, he uses the good ones and the bad ones use the The Lord”


59 posted on 3/28/2014, 11:51:20 AM by rdcbn
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To: NYer
“His Holiness is probably the only person who has to put up with more protocol than me,” Obama joked, referring to the two men's respective meetings with foreign dignitaries and attendant security details.

(((BITING MY TONGUE)))

60 posted on 3/28/2014, 12:10:30 PM by tioga
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