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Despite the article's hysterical anti-right wing tone, I think the conservatives should indeed ponder: why are so many on the nationalist Right unable to see, through the Russian Federation's Soviet-style social conservatism, a re-enactment of the old COMINTERN posing serious threat to the nations of Europe, including Russia itself?
1 posted on 03/29/2014 9:48:21 AM PDT by annalex
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2 posted on 03/29/2014 9:49:26 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Seems to me that the "right-wing" in Europe is usually a variety of collectivist politics. Certainly the Nazis (national socialists) were collectivists who looked for a strong leader, just like the fascists in Italy.

Putin? Russia? I'm not surprised that the "right-wing" in Europe sees some good in him.

I'm a pro-freedom guy who believes in individualism and small government. I don't think I have a lot in common with the European "right-wing".

4 posted on 03/29/2014 10:01:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Putin greatest transgression was that he performed a nationalist action. Nationalism is the real transgression. The EU elite and the progressive “multicultural” Obama led Left are one world globalists. They loathe nationalism. However the rest of the world has not signed on. Russia, China and most of the third world remain fervently patriotic and nationalistic. what is more this Crimea episode has demonstrated that the real power and influence of the West, as it enters a post Christian, neo pagan decadent era, is in decline. Western leaders have been reduced to grumbling, whining and pouting. That is no substitute for inspiring leadership or effective policies. Events have evolved despite their futile objections.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 10:01:26 AM PDT by allendale
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But “far right” in European usage can mean anything from genuinely far-right (e.g. Golden Dawn), to simply Euroskeptic (e.g. UKIP), to supportive of traditional European or national culture or even the classical-liberal idea of liberty against the multiculturalist, corporatist ideas being imposed from Brussels (e.g. the Dutch PVV). The common thread is being anti-EU, and at very least Russia is the enemy of their enemy.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 10:04:23 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To counter Russia, European leaders should start launching public investigations into external funding of extreme-right political parties. If extensive Russia connections are found, it would be important to publicize that fact and then impose sanctions on Russia that would make it more difficult for it to provide such support.

Interesting, isn't this what Russia has done passing transparency and indoctrination laws against ultra left Homofascists and foreign funded ultra leftist NGO's?

Pro-European parties must find a way to mobilize voters who are notoriously unwilling to vote in European parliament elections. Europe will also have to rethink the austerity policies that have worsened the grievances of many Europeans and pushed them to support the anti-system, anti-European right.

Right, the Socialist will have to buy more votes with Other People's Money to counter a resurgence of moral values.

Although Germany has banned extreme right parties from representation, other countries have not.

Well, we need to get busy and ban political parties opposed to the EU.

Rather than making another land grab in his back yard, Putin might watch patiently from the sidelines at the end of May as pro-Russia far-right parties win a dramatic election victory in European parliamentary elections. These elections could weaken the European Union and bring Russia’s friends on the far right closer to power.

Unless the EU can buy enough Useful Idiots to vote themselves and everybody else into administrative and debt serfdom.

Mitchell A. Orenstein has a plan!

9 posted on 03/29/2014 10:20:11 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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In the old days, Foreign Affairs would never have let anyone so stupid as to write:

Given that one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s stated reasons for invading Crimea was to prevent “Nazis” from coming to power in Ukraine, it is perhaps surprising that his regime is growing closer by the month to extreme right-wing parties across Europe.

write for them.

11 posted on 03/29/2014 10:21:39 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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I want to know why anyone thought the expansion of NATO was a good thing after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact.

How many tens of millions of Russians have died from invaders from their west over the last 2 centuries?


14 posted on 03/29/2014 10:37:53 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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Putin recently said he would stand with Israel...


17 posted on 03/29/2014 10:39:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (Save Your Country , Fire A Democrat - freeper molso209)
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Harder to sympathize when nations burn babies for fuel and euthanize 12 year olds.


24 posted on 03/29/2014 10:55:48 AM PDT by Viennacon
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Perhaps Putin is setting up these parties to later create a reason for the Russians to later move in and “Liberate” them.


26 posted on 03/29/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Some rational people in Europe might be attracted to policies that fought back at muslims in their midst, as Putin appears willing to do.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 11:11:21 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Mother of God repel Putin!

36 posted on 03/29/2014 11:25:47 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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True American Conservatives DO have something in common with Putin and it is not an ideological agreement and it has different principles and motivations - both are EU skeptics, and both do not accept the western political elite’s myth that (no matter what Putin is about) the EU is NOT about empire building - it is. The EU is NOT about Liberty, NOT about democracy, NOT about “tolerance” or “diversity”; it is about expanding CENTRAL authority over more and more daily life in Europe in Brussels, in unelected bureaucrats and supra-national courts given final and perpetual say-so by one-off “democratic” acts which close off local, “national” democratic decisions about many things after that.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 11:28:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Putin’s Western Allies: Why Europe’s Far Right Is on the Kremlin’s Side, annalex wrote:
Despite the article’s hysterical anti-right wing tone, I think the conservatives should indeed ponder: why are so many on the nationalist Right unable to see, through the Russian Federation’s Soviet-style social conservatism, a re-enactment of the old COMINTERN posing serious threat to the nations of Europe, including Russia itself?

The answer to your question why they’re accepting funds from the “Kremlin” is because some of these so called nationalistic groups (usefull idiots) believe they, not Putin, can control what they’re advocating. They also see no problem with being dependent on Russia for their energy sources which is what they believe Putin is really about. And to a certain extent he is waging a capitalistic war using commi tactics. Attempting to corner europes oil market.

When Ukraine which under the old soviet was an “independent” country voting in the UN signed those agreements there were limitations placed on the number of ships,troops, and equipment Russia could keep at its naval base. When the Ukrainians kicked out whatshisname Russia wasn’t observing those agreements because Putin’s stooge let them violate them big time. And of course the Kremlin p/r tells us and repeated here in postings by Putin supporters built up their cause celeb. The truth is very likely any new government would put a kibosh on that but had no intention of kicking the Russians out. One consistant FR poster makes that assertion here when that come up. As far as ownership of the Crimea goes there were a bunch of owners including the Venetians who by the way just passed a non binding independent country referendum. We’re not hearing about any conflict that’s going on in that peninsula so don’t buy the crap that Kremlin sources are spewing it’s now one happy “russified” place.

Just this week I haven’t seen it posted here in FRs UK’s PM Cameron urged tapping into europes shale oil gas deposits and forget about Russia. Plus all of those former “soviets” are closely re-examining their defences. If that all comes together Putin might be out before Obama gets impeached.


45 posted on 03/29/2014 12:20:27 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Mr. Orenstein uses the word extreme some 7 times.....where does Mitch Orenstein stand...middle, left or far left?
46 posted on 03/29/2014 12:24:57 PM PDT by yoe
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This article is what I would expect from the SPLC-ADL types in which everything they oppose must be a “far-right” conspiracy. Somehow the growing resentment against the EU by the people of Europe is seen as some kind of ‘threat’. After all, much of the EU’s policy’s have been far beyond their legal limits and for the most part is a continental government most Europeans didn’t want.

Oh, and one more thing: It’s FAILING. But let’s not let reality get in the way of conventional wisdom.

Now, in seeing the decline of the West, many ‘patriots’ are looking East to (dare I say it) moral stability (which as we know, usually leads to political and economic stability).

Also, has it become more than obvious to everyone that Putin is now the new ‘bad guy’? A typical tactic of the West to make an adversary all about one person (G.W. Bush, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, even Edward Snowden if the need arises).

Fact is that unlike Libya, Uganda, Pakistan, Somalia and a few other recent countries (to name a few), Putin actually ASKED for his Parliament’s permission before moving on Crimea. I predict Russia will slowly garner more support from Western citizens as they find a growing disconnect with their own government’s leaders.

What was that (in)famous line recently from Putin? Oh yes:

“... I only wish I had the power that Obama thinks he has...”

Throw up all the propaganda you wish, but this is not about Putin. It’s about that so-called ‘regional power’ that we have to pay $71 million per seat to get a man into space, who’s economy is stabilizing by not overspending, and turning the petro-dollars into domestic manufacturing (you know - that stuff WE used to do), and who - along with it’s BRIC alliance, government more than 60% of the worlds population.

(BRIC = Brazil, Russia, India, China)

A population I might add, that under it’s current social policies, will see positive growth over the next generations while their opposition will surely see a decline.

Not taking sides here, just calling them as I see them. Personally, I think we should be worrying more about the domestic army being poised against us, a full on invasion from our southern border, and the absence of Constitutional limits much more than that ‘regional’ problem in the Ukraine.

jimjohn - out.


47 posted on 03/29/2014 12:59:24 PM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: annalex

A better question might be why the American right doesn’t take more cues from their European counterparts who clearly see that the real enemy to conservatism and national sovereignty is the anti-religious, socialism of the European Union, not the mafia-style capitalism operating in Russia.


49 posted on 03/29/2014 1:46:33 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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or, perhaps Russia sees the path away from socialism as the proper course.

It’s for damn sure they know that communism is a bitter path to follow


50 posted on 03/29/2014 2:51:20 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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Farage: EU does have 'blood on its hands' over Ukraine - March 27, 2014 - Asked by an audience member why Ukraine wanted to join what he had called a "failed" institution, Mr Farage attacked the EU's "imperialist, expansionist" ambitions, saying it had "blood on its hands" for encouraging Ukrainians to topple their president.

"If you poke the Russian bear with a stick he will respond. And if you have neither the means nor the political will to face him down that is very obviously not a good idea."

He said the British public were sick of being "dragged into conflicts where no pressing national interest was at stake".

He said European leaders should not allow the expectation to grow that countries such as Britain "will always side with uprisings in the naive belief that benevolent liberal democracy is bound to replace existing regimes, fundamentally imperfect as they are".

"That is not the way the world works. So I repeat the charge: the EU has blood on its hands," he added.


51 posted on 03/29/2014 3:22:36 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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This isn't comintern. It's Eurasianism. Dugin's followers have been cultivating ties with nationalists all over Europe and the US for over a decade. These fools are traitors to Western Civilization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/8074

58 posted on 03/29/2014 11:06:29 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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