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To: annalex

I think you’re right, but I don’t use the term ‘autocracy’. I see conservatism as a reactionary form of libertarianism. the right left spectrum runs from libertarianism on the right to statism on the left.

True conservatism states that libertarianism is the preferable position, but that civil society as it stands today is not suitable for libertarianism, and because of that, the civil society must be changed or ‘restored’ to its previous station for the most part.

And of course, within conservatism are several sub-ideological groups.


32 posted on 03/29/2014 11:06:44 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
Let me make a suggestion with respect to your differentiation between conservatism & libertarianism. Surely one of the most basic concepts of "Liberty," certainly one accepted by most of the Founding Fathers, is the right of people to form communities, where the residents share each other's values. Thus in the early days, especially, we also had many religious communities; we had wide cultural differences, from State to State, on all sorts of issues.

The present corruption of the concept of "Liberty," by the ACLU, NAACP, SPLC, ADL, and the like; which prevents local communities from enforcing the cultural or religious wishes of the inhabitants, by allowing any dissenting litigant to enjoin what was once permitted; is actually anti-libertarian, and part of a totalitarian utilitarianism, which reduces all aspects of culture to the lowest level that everyone can be forced to accept.

William Flax

40 posted on 03/29/2014 11:50:01 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Viennacon
True conservatism states that libertarianism is the preferable position, but that civil society as it stands today is not suitable for libertarianism, and because of that, the civil society must be changed or ‘restored’ to its previous station for the most part.

Right, -- that is conservatism. But the right wing has a different albeit overlapping spectrum, on one end of which you will find sympathy to authoritarian solutions, such as the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile 40 years ago. More on the topic, the use of force by the rebels in Kiev is certainly right wing, but it is not conservatism.

63 posted on 03/30/2014 11:33:06 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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