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To: Yollopoliuhqui
...GM knew there was a fault causing deaths...

Read my lips, the ignition switch did NOT "cause" a single death! Even the NHTSA has said that these are related, but have NOT listed the switch as the cause of the DEATH!

The driver's inability to keep control of their car, as required by law, died DUE to their actions. The switch was a contributing factor, but it did NOT kill anyone.

What kind of people don't understand that if YOU put too much crap on YOUR key-chain or YOU hit/kick the ignition, it may cause problems? These switches don't just turn off or fall out, etc... They are only "faulty" if you put too much crap on the key or you hit/kick the thing while you are driving down the road.

Malfeasance? Really? Do you even know what that word means?

There was no "wrong doing." There was a less than perfect design that had problems in certain situations - period! A car itself is dangerous to anyone and everyone around it - in certain situations. Does that make the building of cars an act of malfeasance? You could say that about having a radio in the car! Is placing a radio in the car malfeasance? Surely GM knows that cars and cars with radios are "related" to thousands of accidents and deaths every year!

They knew they had a less-than perfect ignition switch and redesigned it. Since GM has come out with other, better parts on their cars, is it moral turpitude for them NOT to automatically go back and upgrade all the older cars with these new, safer options?

Your self-righteousness, is what makes the libs scream with joy! Your refusal to look at the whole picture makes you easily malleable to whatever morally righteous road they can lead you down!
52 posted on 04/01/2014 3:14:51 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine
Read my lips, the ignition switch did NOT "cause" a single death! Even the NHTSA has said that these are related, but have NOT listed the switch as the cause of the DEATH! (etc.) ===== Read my mind. You are talking lawyer talk, sophistry, spinning up input as an apologist for Big Car. Manufacturers with a 19th century monopolist mentality cut every ding dong corner they can. Why the sam hell you think we have a market for foreign cars in this country, eh? Quality issues? Nah. The consumer has been hypnotized by an evil wizard. Maybe GM should learn to add lawsuits to their manufacturing costs. The spring in the switch was weak and they knew it and they tried to sneak in a replacement without retrofitting cars with the weak spring. That's malfeasance. Fight the battles you can win. OEM spring vs. replacement spring - http://tinyurl.com From http://tinyurl.com/kl9u84x "During depositions for their suit last year, the Meltons learned from GM engineers that the company had been aware of potential problems with its ignition systems before Brooke purchased her car in 2005. The Meltons’ lawyers also found evidence that GM had altered the design of ignition switches after Brooke purchased her Cobalt, but had done so without notifying federal regulators or car owners or changing the part number. The change, which apparently occurred in 2006, increased the size of the detent plunger and spring, a pair of parts that hold the ignition key in position – a change that an engineer hired by the lawyers said seemed intended to increase the “torque force” holding the key in place." mal·fea·sance noun \ˌmal-ˈfē-zən(t)s\ law : illegal or dishonest activity especially by a public official or a corporation
53 posted on 04/01/2014 3:41:17 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: ExTxMarine
FR bolloxed the formatting of the previous post for some reason. I had to put in manual paragraph code. Update below:

Read my lips, the ignition switch did NOT "cause" a single death! Even the NHTSA has said that these are related, but have NOT listed the switch as the cause of the DEATH! (etc.)

=====

Read my mind. You are talking lawyer talk, sophistry, spinning up input as an apologist for Big Car. Manufacturers with a 19th century monopolist mentality cut every ding dong corner they can. Why the sam hell you think we have a market for foreign cars in this country, eh? Quality issues? Nah. The consumer must have been hypnotized by an evil wizard.

Maybe GM should learn to add lawsuits to their manufacturing costs. The spring in the switch was weak and they knew it and they tried to sneak in a replacement without retrofitting cars with the weak spring. That's malfeasance. Fight the battles you can win.

OEM spring vs. replacement spring - http://tinyurl.com

From http://tinyurl.com/kl9u84x

"During depositions for their suit last year, the Meltons learned from GM engineers that the company had been aware of potential problems with its ignition systems before Brooke purchased her car in 2005. The Meltons’ lawyers also found evidence that GM had altered the design of ignition switches after Brooke purchased her Cobalt, but had done so without notifying federal regulators or car owners or changing the part number. The change, which apparently occurred in 2006, increased the size of the detent plunger and spring, a pair of parts that hold the ignition key in position – a change that an engineer hired by the lawyers said seemed intended to increase the “torque force” holding the key in place."

mal·fea·sance noun \ˌmal-ˈfē-zən(t)s\

law : illegal or dishonest activity especially by a public official or a corporation

54 posted on 04/01/2014 3:51:44 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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