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To: Go_Raiders
You just agreed that Newton’s Law is valid for anything above the nano scale, but you can’t fathom that the theory of evolution is valid if you don’t try to apply it to first life.

The problem with the hypothesis of evolution is that it is untested and unproven, and is not scientifically valid over ANY range. It is the complete lack of any reliable evidence for the hypothesis of evolution that is the issue.

The Scientific Method is only valid across a particular range of inquiries. Science does not apply unless a hypothesis is tested by repeatable and repeated experiments which clearly prove the hypothesis to be true.

Since no experiment has ever been performed to prove ANY version of evolution, and no experiment has ever been repeated by independent teams under varying conditions in different locations, evolution remains only a hypothesis -- a proposed possibility.

No matter how you define evolution, it has never been tested by any experiment under the disciplines of the Scientific Method.

Really, evolution is no more than superstition, like the idea that dirty rags spontaneously turn into rats. That was the superstition before the development of the Scientific Method.

But it gets worse. The Scientific Method requires the formulation of an experiment that is CAPABLE of testing the hypothesis as true or false.

How can you test the hypothesis of evolution?

Remember: Even if we observed one species transforming into another species, that still would not tell us that that is what happened in the past.

So, let's say we want to know if a Pharoah 5,000 years ago had eggs for breakfast on the third Tuesday (our terminology today) of the fourth month of the year.

How would you design an experiment to test whether the Pharoah had eggs for breakfast 5,000 years ago?

Clearly you cannot. There is no experiment that can be designed or performed to tell us what the Pharoah had for breakfast 5,000 years ago.

But that is what the origin of life is like. In fact, that is what the origin of human beings is like also. At some point in time there was the first human being. That happened ONLY ONCE.

Even if we could transform a monkey into a human being, that would not tell us that this what happened the first time.

So, how would you design an experiment capable of testing evolution true or false?

What would that experiment look like?

Remember: It has to be repeated by other independent teams in different places under varying conditions. So what experiment could prove evolution -- ANY version of evolution -- true or false?
73 posted on 04/06/2014 4:58:02 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: Moseley

You are showing a complete ignorance of how science works. Theories can very seldom be proven to an absolute certainty. Theories that are considered proven absolutely are called Laws. Theories are tested by collecting evidence using one or more of the following means - observation, measurement and experimentation. Most often, predictions are made based on theories, and evidence is sought to determine the accuracy of the prediction.

Theories can easily be proven false when evidence is found which contradicts the theory. The IPCC sponsored climate change theory has been proven false, as predictions made based on that theory have not achieved anything resembling accuracy over the past 20 years.

Use of radioisotopes to date ancient rocks and fossils is an example. Rate of decay for any given isotope are assumed to be constant, because they have never been observed to fluctuate or change. You would have to find observations millions of years in the past to know absolutely that decay rates never change. However, measurements have been made for a sufficient length of time that scientists almost universally agree that they will remain constant. The key point is NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND TO CONTRADICT THIS THEORY.

Similarly for testing evolution, you would not be able to directly test the theory unless you spent millions of years making observations. Experiments on processes that take millions of years can only be examined experimentally over timespans of years or decades.

Evolution involves three facts widely considered proven.

1. Genetic mutations occur naturally in all organisms which sometimes result in offspring with characteristics not inherited from their predecessors. These genetic mutations can often be passed on to succeeding generations. My Father’s sister died from complications of a genetic mutation in her mitochondria in parts of her body. The distribution of the mutated mitochondria indicate that it happened while she was an embryo. Thankfully her children did not inherit this mutation as it did not occur in a cell that developed into her ova. Genetic mutations will either increase, decrease or not effect the chances of survival. Even very dull witted people generally agree with that last part. NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND WHICH CONTRADICTS THIS.

2. Over time, organisms inheriting beneficial characteristics tend to displace the members of that species which lack this characteristic. This is generally referred to as survival of the fittest, but many times it becomes survival of the prettiest due to sexual preferences. NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND WHICH CONTRADICTS THIS.

3. The environment of the Earth consists of thousands of distinct habitats, which are constantly subject to either gradual or sudden change. The changed habitats will favor either the mutated characteristic or the non-mutated, or will be neutrally adaptable. NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND THAT CONTRADICTS THIS.

The theory predicts that over billions of years, trillions of genetic mutations will accumulate throughout all segments of living organisms on Earth, and that the changes in habitats which favor one characteristic over another will result in organisms that range from single cells to Blue Whales.

There have been many observations made which confirm to most scientists satisfaction that billions of years ago the were only single celled organisms, and that more complex life forms appear millions of years later. NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND THAT CONTRADICTS THIS

There have been several experiments performed to test whether selection drives genetic changes in organisms.

The longest duration experiment began before recorded history, when Gray Wolves were domesticated and through selection over 300 genetically distinct breeds have been produced.

Shorter term experiments have demonstrated that mutations in micro organisms subjected to selective pressure using antibiotics can result in immunity to the antibiotics.

If I had time I could give more evidence to support the prediction, but the most important fact is that NO EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND WHICH CONTRADICTS THE PREDICTION.

Every time you respond you provide ZERO FACTS to support your opinion. Your pharaoh fable does not have any applicability to this issue. If there is evidence available and you or anybody else would like to form a hypothesis, that’s fine, but it is only applicable to itself, not to any other theory or law.

Theories present the most likely explanation for a given condition or phenomenon given ALL AVAILABLE EVIDENCE. They are generally relied upon until someone comes up with a theory which better fits all available evidence.

If you have actual evidence you are welcome to provide it. Or you can just keep spouting opinion, your choice.


74 posted on 04/06/2014 10:40:55 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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