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Do Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights? Supreme Court Won't Hear Wedding Photographers' Case
Townhall ^ | 04/07/2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/07/2014 12:04:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Gay rights trump religious rights.

That’s the rule of law in New Mexico after the U.S. Supreme Court declined on Monday to consider whether a wedding photographer was within her rights when she refused to film a gay couple’s commitment ceremony.

The high court’s decision not to hear the case lets stand a New Mexico Supreme Court decision that the owners of Elane Photography violated the state’s anti-discrimination laws.

As one New Mexico justice ominously noted, Jonathan and Elaine Huguenin “are compelled by law to compromise the very religious beliefs that inspire their lives.”

The state’s demand that the Huguenins disobey their religious beliefs and photograph the ceremony is “the price of citizenship,” a justice wrote.

I write extensively about the Huguenins in my upcoming book, “God Less America.”

The Supreme Court’s decision not to hear the case sends a chilling message to Americans who oppose gay marriage, said Jordan Lorence, an Alliance Defending Freedom attorney who represents the Huguenins.

“It is disconcerting because the (state) decision was so harsh that this small company can now be forced by state anti-discrimination laws to create messages that they don’t agree with,” he told me. “This new authoritarianism – forcing people to bow the knee to a new orthodoxy or they be punished – is very chilling.”

In 2006 Elaine Huguenin received an email from Vanessa Willock asking her to photograph a “commitment ceremony” between Willock and her same-sex partner. Huguenin declined because the event would have been at odds with her deep convictions, Lorence said.

She had previously declined to photograph other events, including nude photography sessions.

The lesbian couple found a lower-priced photographer to shoot their ceremony, but they nonetheless filed a complaint with the New Mexico Human Rights Commission. The ensuing legal battle became one of the first major cases to explore the collision of gay rights and the First Amendment rights of business owners.

“When people say things like gay rights trump religious rights, what they are saying is the government can force people to believe a certain way – and that is something that in a free society should not be tolerated,” Lorence said.

The idea that gay rights take precedence over everyone else’s rights was recently manifested in the forced resignation of Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich, who came under fire from the gay rights community after it was revealed he had donated money to California’s Prop 8 initiative.

“We are now going to see more situations where people are going to be forced to choose between what they believe about marriage – and their job or their business,” Lorence told me.

“What concerns me is there will be an effort to expand these types of hunting down people with wrong opinions. I don’t know how far this can go.”

I know exactly how far this can go.

I believe militant gay rights groups will start targeting churches that own fellowship halls. I believe they will start targeting pastors who preach against homosexuality. And I believe they will go after individuals who attend those kinds of churches.

Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) was among those shocked by the Supreme Court’s inaction. He said every American should be concerned.

“The ability to speak freely and live according to our beliefs is the prize, not the price, of citizenship,” the congressman said. “And we all have a stake in protecting it.”

It’s not out of the realm of possibility that one day Americans could be forced to answer this question: Do you know or have you ever been a member of a church that opposes gay marriage?

The religious cleansing of America has begun.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; gayrights; homosexualagenda; religiousrights; scotus; supremecourt
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To: JPX2011
Could not agree more. Christianity and Americanism are under relentless attack with no quarter given. The sooner we all recognize that the better

Do people really believe this is a constitutional issue anymore? 1st Amendment? 10th Amendment? At this point it’s like arguing if the quarterback should run a draw or throw a post. A parlor game. We’re in a street fight people. Save the Marquess of Queensberry rules for people who actually abide by them. Civil disobedience is the order of the day.

Small correction:

Forcing these photographers to take a job they don’t want IS slavery.

But that's the reality of America, 2014

61 posted on 04/07/2014 9:29:14 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: zerosix

“Unfortunately, if those who could act, refuse to do so, this abomination, like so many others Obama, et al have committed, will stand and each and every American citizen will be short changed forever.”

“Short-changed” is putting it mildly. Allowing sick people to force opinion-makers to say the mentally are just swell with the promotion, and, unbelievably, the celebration of pervasion in our media, in our schools, in our synagogues and churches and in military will be a blight on our country from which there will be no recovery in the foreseeable future. Those who voted for Obama and like-minded legislators are bringing all of us a terrible future. The antidote to the homosexual agenda lunacy will not be pleasant. It will be another lunacy growing in parallel- the lunacy of Islamic Jihad. Obama’s courting them both. Good luck with that, Barack.


62 posted on 04/07/2014 10:22:40 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: rjsimmon

I think you are probably correct.


63 posted on 04/08/2014 2:31:30 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SeekAndFind; P-Marlowe

Perhaps these people can reorganize as a non-profit to emphasize that their work is limited by the objectives of the non-profit. If the NFL can be a non-profit, then just about anything should be able to qualify using that same threshold.

As a business, they are defined as a public accommodation forbidden from discriminating.

Perhaps they can organize themselves as a photo club/organization that one has to join and agree to the principles thereof.


64 posted on 04/08/2014 3:02:01 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What goes around comes around. For now, gays serve as a means to an end, but once that service is over, they’ll more than likely find their own rights being pushed aside to suck up to a new voting bloc. It’ll be interesting to see their reaction on that day.

Then again, even a homosexual I went to the Fire Academy with can’t see the similarity between being prevented by force from following her beliefs and what’s being done to folks like the photographer.


65 posted on 04/08/2014 3:44:07 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Do Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights? Supreme Court Won't Hear Wedding Photographers' Case

Well; the Supreme Being has heard it ALL; and has rendered a decision:



Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.


66 posted on 04/08/2014 4:19:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: whtabtbill
We need to defend our freedoms without prejudice. PERIOD!!!
67 posted on 04/08/2014 4:20:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Amendment10
When parents don’t make sure that their children are taught the Constitution as the Founding States had intended for it to be understood, then anything can trump the Constitution imo.

Trying to fight SIN with a POLITICAL solution is a fool's errand.

68 posted on 04/08/2014 4:22:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MrB
The left is doing the bidding of their ideological father and using homos as the spearpoint in the quest to criminalize Christianity.

'Christianity' has already ALLOWED the MURDER of 55,000,000 of America's future citizens.

Don't be looking to it for anything to help.


Without repentance; of course.


 

 

 

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways; ,

then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.

69 posted on 04/08/2014 4:24:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MrB


Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

70 posted on 04/08/2014 4:24:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StonyBurk
But in America today—where is the resistance?

It's there, but gets VERY little ink or airtime.

The media would rather present a caricature - Fred Phelps - than present normal folks.

Just like the media would rather show 'normal' fags getting all lovey-dovey, than the raw sex of a Gay 'Pride' parade!

71 posted on 04/08/2014 4:30:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cloudmountain

Yea!!!

GOOD news!


72 posted on 04/08/2014 4:31:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cloudmountain

Right now, it looks like use of the epithet “faggie” just might constitute an act of political defiance against our growing homofascist police state.


73 posted on 04/08/2014 4:32:40 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: cloudmountain

Glad to hear that the problems plaguing your church are now lessening.


74 posted on 04/08/2014 4:33:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: longtermmemmory
State court judge need to lose a few elections to purify their minds.

Uh...

Did they elect THEMSELVES?

75 posted on 04/08/2014 4:34:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sola Veritas
What is it going to take to stop the judicial tyranny we are witnessing?

What did it 'take' the FIRST time?


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
 that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
 that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
 
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
 deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --
 
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
 it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
 laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,
 as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
 and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
 than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
 
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design
 to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,
 and to provide new Guards for their future security.--
 
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
 and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
 
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations,
 all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
 
To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

76 posted on 04/08/2014 4:36:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kazan

Write Governor Susana Martinez and demand she exonerate Elaine Huguenin and work on a law or executive order restoring religious freedom in the state of New Mexico:

Many would rejoice!

http://www.peyoteway.org/cultivation.php


77 posted on 04/08/2014 4:39:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cloudmountain
Wherever I travel my nails look better than ANYONE else's on the planet...and that includes New York City

So you tolerate his sin, so that you look good.

Ok then...

78 posted on 04/08/2014 4:41:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cloudmountain
"Proud faggies"?? Please you sound like a seven year old. OR are you sounding like a South Carolinian?


Folks: you just CAN'T make this stuff up!

79 posted on 04/08/2014 4:42:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
sad, pathetic statement

True.

They should have said 'some' instead of 'any'.

80 posted on 04/08/2014 4:44:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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