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To: TheThirdRuffian

I dislike the BLM. I once worked a few months for the USFS, but the Forest Service was a very different organization in 1979. I loathe the environmental laws Congress has passed, and their refusal to rein in the BLM, EPA & USFS.

However, this is a pretty straightforward case: the rancher refuses to pay for grazing permits, and has argued in court that he is not a US citizen. This is NOT the place for conservatives to rally!


10 posted on 04/11/2014 11:31:20 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Mr Rogers
This is NOT the place for conservatives to rally!

It never is. I don't blame him for not thinking of himself as a US Citizen. I feel the same way most days.
34 posted on 04/11/2014 11:44:53 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Mr Rogers

What’s the BLM so upset about? I’ve never heard of a cow eating turtles much less endangered ones.

Heard on Glenn Beck radio show that the rancher owes 1.1 million in fees, but it costs the government over 3 million to remove the cattle.


40 posted on 04/11/2014 11:47:30 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Mr Rogers

It is not straightforward, as anyone who researches it a tiny bit knows. 95% of Nevada is owned by Feds. What more do they want?


62 posted on 04/11/2014 12:04:21 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Mr Rogers

We once “rallied” over “tea” in Boston........

This dispute has nothing to do with “cattle”............after the last 5 years of Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Biden, Czars, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS, Solyndra and on and on endlessly, AMERICANS ARE JUST PISSED!!!!!


75 posted on 04/11/2014 12:14:36 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Mr Rogers

But the Fed govt allows and actually supports & welcomes alien illegals who are not US citizens TO BUY LAND & Houses IN USA.
As far as LAND goes, illegal aliens have the gov t support.


197 posted on 04/11/2014 1:43:09 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Mr Rogers
However, this is a pretty straightforward case: the rancher refuses to pay for grazing permits, and has argued in court that he is not a US citizen. This is NOT the place for conservatives to rally!

Too many idiots too itching for a fight to be troubled with pesky facts. But keep repeating those facts anyway.

200 posted on 04/11/2014 1:47:27 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Mr Rogers; Jim Robinson
More info coming out now, Mr Rogers, about Harry Reid, a multi-billion dollar solar deal with the Chinese, about tortoises being killed by the government, and about Bundy being in the way of all that graft.

*UPDATE: Those who say Bundy is a “deadbeat” are making inaccurate claims.

Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM.

The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard’s head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch.

Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM.

When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights? Cliven Bundy’s problem isn’t that he didn’t pay — he did — or that his cattle bother tortoises — they don’t — it’s that he’s not a Reid donor. - See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/#sthash.snaYAg5L.dpuf

275 posted on 04/11/2014 4:20:44 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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