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Regarding the snow story, the boys were shoveling for their own benefit. They were making money the way boys have for years when it snows. The boys also shoveled before it went to court. In the same way, Bundy was improving and using that area before it went to court.
By the above, I’m not acknowledging the Federal Government’s ownership of that land. It’s something I’ve rejected throughout all these discussions with anyone. There are only a limited number of instances in which the constitution authorizes federal ownership. It certainly never envisioned a leviathan asserting ownership over 80% of a unique and fully capable state.
And since the authority isn’t specifically assigned, then it reverts to the State or to the people. So, I’m thinking in terms of nullification of those previous courts.
BTW, Scoutmaster, you’ve been more than friendly and fair in all your posts. I really appreciate that.
In your example, the boys were making money by shoveling. They weren’t laying claim to title of any of the homes of the driveways, or the driveways, they purchased.
Second - and this is merely for discussion, because neither of us knows to my understanding. Suppose the series of six ten-year grazing contracts permitted the construction of certain improvements but provided they would be appurtenances to the property that became the property of the land owner upon termination/expiration of the lease/permit?
That’s not outlandish. Many landowners will only ground lease their property. The most common term I’ve seen is 100 years. A family in my small suburb is home to a family that never sells land and has ground-leased it since the Great Depression. Walmart ground leases from them, as does a golf course, a strip shopping center, a Bank of America, a senior citizens’ home. Those are major transactions in the ten years. When the ground leases expire, the family will own improved property.
I understand and appreciate the concern over the Constitutionality of claimed federal ownership. It’s one of the areas about which I’m reading more.
Thank you for the sentiments.