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To: kingu
I guess the one question I have is: can I, today, file for, pay the fees for, and be granted rights to graze cattle on that land?

My experience is that yes you can and the government officials will happily accept your tithes for as long as possible.

Then will come the EPA, the Water Management Authority, the Greens, the Illegals claiming it is THEIR land historically, the Native Americans with the same claims, some rich private company that needs it for their own special project, or the government itself that has discovered either something on your property that they now need or that it is simply in the way of.

Then your property, your house(s), your livestock, your water and mineral rights, and any improvements you made will all be made as nothing. You will be given little if anything for what you owned and whatever taxes, fees, and fines you paid will forever be not even a historical footnote. I think that in the past from a few cases I have read about, compensation was mandatory and precidence (sp?) usually determined it to be one Federal Reserve Note in the amount of one dollar.

44 posted on 04/12/2014 12:17:48 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer
My experience is that yes you can and the government officials will happily accept your tithes for as long as possible.

Well, if that is true, then the obvious solution is for the 5,000 or so patriots who are in place should each pay a few pennies to the Bundies, buy the cattle, and pay for the grazing fee for their cattle that is on BLM land. And then turn over ownership of that cattle to the Bundies in return for managing the cattle.

I'm going to bet however that the BLM will not issue a grazing permit to anyone, hence why the paid rustlers are not paying the slightest attention to branding on the cattle and all cattle they come across are being rounded up. That no one is permitted to graze on that public land, that the excuse is a protected turtle or moth or rodent which somehow has managed to survive with cattle grazing on that land.

That the entire issue revolves around BLM land managers who have spent decades trying to get all cattle off that land, or to demand mitigation measures that are utterly unreasonable and unfeasible, and this is why the Bundies stopped paying for grazing rights.

But it would be very very good for people to actually test these theories, and demonstrate clearly for all to see that BLM, much as they claim this is all about unpaid fees, have no interest at all in collecting those fees from anyone, and simply wish to close this land off for other uses.

51 posted on 04/12/2014 12:46:02 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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