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To: centurion316

During the months that I spent working for the Forest service in 79-80, the USFS lived by the rule of “multiple use”. I worked supporting timber sales and building campgrounds. We were looking at using timber sales to create fire breaks and open up land for grazing.

Those days are long gone. The USFS has gone preservationist, as has the BLM. The Park Service has always been that way. About 30 miles from where I’m sitting, they dug up paved roads that had been there for 50 years so they could call the land a ‘wilderness area’. It was completely and totally dishonest.

My concern is that I don’t know what one does when a society has become as dishonest as ours now is. What good does it do to pass a law if the President is free to ignore it or change it on his whims, and the GOP does nothing to stop him? If the GOP House won’t even hold his feet to the fire on changing Obamacare daily, what hope do we have? The Jr Senator from Arizona ran as a supposed Tea Party type conservative, then turned hard left immediately after winning - Jeff McFlake, buttboy to John McCain. If we cannot even get an honest conservative in Arizona, what hope is there?


67 posted on 04/12/2014 1:52:49 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Mr Rogers

You are quite right about how it used to be. In the seventies I had almost unhindered access to Forest Service land as did everyone else. You had to share it with loggers and ranchers, but it wasn’t hard to stay out of one another’s way.

Many of the Forest Rangers were WWII and Korean War II vets, outsdoorsmen who jumped at the chance for a job doing what they loved. They were friendly, gave good advice, and if they thought that you might need a little firearm protection, they made sure that you got that advice.

They are all gone now, replaced by the tree huggers who think that it all belongs to them.


77 posted on 04/12/2014 2:20:47 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Mr Rogers

One of my maxims has been that the attitude of the staff is a reflection of the attitude of the management. Example from leaders leads.

Until slick willie came along most people and kids had not ever heard of oral sex and then it became mainstream to the point that we have an outbreak or oral sex diseases.

obastard has shown that there are not real laws. He picks and chooses which ones he follows so why shouldn’t everyone else?

This government is a sham. It upholds itself as righteous but it is as corrupt and contemptible as any on the planet. More so in fact because other are at least honest about their corruption.

I wondered how the Brits were able to manage India with such a small garrison. For awhile they did it because they upheld the law mostly equally for all. Something the Indians had never seen. When the Brits began not to do that their hold decayed. Something about consent of the governed isn’t it?

The GOP is no better than the DNC. It is all about money and power now. My wife noted that Kerry was after a peace prize because he already has money. McLame is afer, what? McFlake is after... what?

Honest and politician are not words that go together very often at all. I read once that politics is a course of action set upon to achieve an unavowed purpose. Sounds dishonest by definition to me. At least deceitful.


87 posted on 04/12/2014 5:59:50 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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