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1 posted on 04/13/2014 11:51:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Just kidnap a few of those Russians and hold them for ransom. Have them I.D. themselves on youtube and THEN watch what happens back home!


2 posted on 04/13/2014 12:04:14 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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The Ukrainians are playing this smart. Shining light on the rats is the best thing to do, so nobody is taken in by Russian propaganda when they march into Ukraine to commit slaughter.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 12:11:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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That proof and a $5 bill will get you an Obama coffee.


6 posted on 04/13/2014 1:22:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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I bet they have electronic intelligence from the extensive network of Ukrainian satellites, sophisticated “technical means”, and reliable unbiased sources.

Seems to me that the Ukraine leaders think that as long as they yell, "the Russians are coming" no one will pay any attention to what the new leadership is up to.

I can't decide whether the Ukrainians or the Russians are tossing more manure around. If the Ukrainians can't get their act together pretty soon the Russians won't have to do anything except accept the delegations from the Eastern Ukraine who show up to ask to be part of Russia. They won't even have to send anyone, just nice new uniforms and ammo.

7 posted on 04/13/2014 1:30:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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fyi . . . Some "proof" isn't very convincing. The AK-100 is available in a number of calibers including NATO 5.56 and in fact are inexpensive by comparison to the M-16 family.

From "The Guns Network LLC" site"

AK-100 SERIES: RUSSIAN EXPANSION OF MARKET

The mere fact of appearance of the AK-100 series is a sure indication that IZHMASH makes a vigorous attempt to regain and expand its International markets. When caliber 5.45 x 39 mm weapons were introduced into mass production to replace the rifles in 7.62 x 39 mm, it was discovered that most of the Russian traditional foreign customers would think twice before placing firm purchase orders. They merely did not trust 5.45 so well as they trusted an old and proven caliber 7.62. In addition 5.45 x 39 mm ammunition was harder to get, while 7.62 x 39 mm was easy to come by. As a result, the volume of exportation shrank considerably. In order to enhance market competitiveness IZHMASH decided to put in line the guns in three calibers: 5.45, 7.62 and 5.56. The Kalashnikovs in 5.56 x 45 mm were created exclusively for export. As a matter of fact, firing the NATO ammunition, AK-101 and AK-102 showed the results noticeably better than 5.45 x 39 mm. First, the case of a 5.56 round is by 6 mm longer and provides propulsion about 20 % greater. Second, quality of cartridge components including propellant, primer and projectile is evidently superior. The geometry of the longer NATO case with least difference between the diameter of the case body and the bullet results in better fire accuracy. Hence, the hit probability as well as the accuracy potential of AK-101 is 22 - 23 % higher than those of the AK74M. Now having the Kalashnikovs in 5.56 x 45 mm IZHMASH seems to be ready to deal with those clients who were traditionally controlled by Western arms suppliers. Anyway, if there is a demand, there must be an offer.

So, what round do those AK-100s fire? NATO 5.56 would be my bet. If I'm wrong, I'll be glad to hear it but right now, I'm looking at the way Libya was handled along with the way this administration and the EU tried to hand Egypt to the MB on a silver platter and thinking that I don't trust anything a gang backed by the EU/US has to say. Especially when they're backing a government that installed itself by mob rule only a few months prior to an election.

9 posted on 04/13/2014 1:52:37 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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Krasnoarmeisk?

Interesting name. Red Army Town?

13 posted on 04/13/2014 2:07:03 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus (ADES)
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A majority of Ukraine's military in Crimea decided to leave the Ukraine military and become Russian citizens. They've got access to anything Ukraine left behind, probably weapons of their own, and the knowledge and training to run effective military operations in adjacent districts. It's not a stretch to imagine them organizing this without Russia's help.

One thing we haven't seen anything about is if other members of Ukraine's military have left and are fghting against the thug government in Kiev.

18 posted on 04/13/2014 2:36:47 PM PDT by grania
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2008 picture shows Special Battalion Vostok. Spetznaz unit of Russian military intelligence (GRU). Manned with Chechens.

21 posted on 04/13/2014 2:46:52 PM PDT by Krosan
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Do they really need proof? It’s not like Sri Lanka did it


26 posted on 04/13/2014 2:56:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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One group seemed to be calling themselves “Afghanistan Veterans”


30 posted on 04/13/2014 3:05:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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Not to worry Ukraine, Obama is sending help the following week.

Joe Biden

43 posted on 04/13/2014 4:03:11 PM PDT by AU72
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