ANALYSIS: Civil War Unlikely as Kiev Junta Loses Support

RIANovosti ^ | 4-14-2014 | Daria Chernyshova

[tcrlaf]

Civil war in Ukraine is unlikely as Kiev’s junta is quickly losing support, according to Jon Hellevig, co-author of the book “Putin’s New Russia."

“I don't think there will be any civil war,” Hellevig, a managing partner at the Moscow-based Awara Group, told RIA Novosti.

“The Russian people of eastern and southern parts of present-day Ukraine will take over their local governments soon, without large-scale conflict,” said Hellevig, a longtime observer of Russia's development.

Pro-federalization protesters in Ukraine’s eastern city of Slaviansk ignored a Monday deadline by the central regime to lay down arms.

[noinfringers2]

They were communist Russians who considered themselves elite and against the Czar Nicholas. So they go to the ‘culture’ of Europe to take in the teachings of Marx and Engels. They were financed by the Rothschilds who wanted to depose the Czar who did not go along with the Rothchilds’ plan for control of Russia’s money market. My father was a ‘white’ Russian who was wounded in some fighting with the Bolsheviks before the 1917 revolution. He escaped to the USA and died a few months before I was born. My mother was a child of a pre 1917 Russian family immigration to the USA. I still have memories of my mother being in contact with my father’s brother in Russia and also the Russians around my mother’s family in the USA.

[MeganC]

The difference is that when a FReeper posts from MSNBC they don’t parrot what’s been said on MSNBC. In this particular case what was said on RIA Novosti was echoed by the OP.

[MeganC]

That you have to add the word “German” into it gives the game up.

I did not 'have to' add German into the name of the Nazi Party - the Nazis did that themselves. 'Nazi' is an acronym for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Worker's Party.

So while there are right-wingers in Ukraine (and last I checked we occasionally see some on FR) there are no Nazis in Ukraine. The use of the term with regards to Ukraine is a signature and hallmark of Russian propaganda since their puppet Yanukovich fled to Moscow to avoid prosecution for corruption and state-sponsored murder.

Megan

[1rudeboy]

I've stated it before, just don't remember if to you--it's amusing: if someone observes that Russia Today is state-owned and controlled, the "excuse" comes back, "but what about MSNBC?"

But if someone observes that MSNBC parrots the party line, you never see anyone excusing it by exclaiming, "but what about Russia Today?"

[MeganC]

I really don’t care about MSNBC or RIA Novosti parroting a party line - what I called out was a FReeper parroting the Russian Information Agency (which is what ‘RIA’ stands for).

[1rudeboy]

There was a thread yesterday, or the day before, where one of our fellow Bolshies felt the need to add some pro-Russia spin to what RT reported, because what RT reported didn't have enough pro-Russia spin to it. Think about that for a minute. LOL

[MeganC]

Okay, THAT is funny! It’s like calling out MSNBC for not being adequately pro-Obama!

[1rudeboy]

I’ll see if I can find it for you, but it will have to wait for this evening.

[dangus]

There is a party which named itself the “Socialist-Nationalist” party, until the elections board had a problem with it. They idolize the Banderites. The Banderites didn’t merely fight for Hitler because Hitler could liberate them from the Soviets. Oh, no: when Hitler threw the leadership into concentration camps, they nonetheless proceded to commit genocide against the Polish-speaking minority.