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To: Democrat_media
"where in the Constitution does it say unelected government agencies can own land and armies or oppress citizens? where? show me the clause.NO where"

Article IV, Section 3, clearly gives the Federal government the right to own property, as in - among many other things - military bases and national parks located throughout the states. Quite frankly, you sound like an idiot with no knowledge of the Constitution. In fact, you sound drunk. You are an embarrassment to conservatism.
183 posted on 04/15/2014 5:41:35 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

the government owns 80% of the land in Nevada. that is not constitutional . if you liberals only had a brain

you are a marxist and trust the government

why do you trust the government?

why do you think it is constitutional or even rational for the federal government to own 80% of the land in Nevada? cause you are a socialist joke


185 posted on 04/15/2014 5:44:53 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Steve_Seattle
the federal government owns 80% of the land in Nevada. that is not constitutional . if you liberals only had a brain

you are a marxist and trust the government

why do you trust the government?

why do you think it is constitutional or even rational for the federal government to own 80% of the land in Nevada? cause you are a socialist joke

federalizing land is marxism. Levin summed it up today. you are a marxist.

186 posted on 04/15/2014 5:51:19 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Those who say this clause delegates the feds control over whatever land they arbitrarily decide to lay claim to are grossly misinterpreting even the most basic structure of the Constitution.

Historically, the Property Clause delegated federal control over territorial lands up until the point when that land would be formed as a state. This was necessary during the time of the ratification of the Constitution due to the lack of westward development. The clause was drafted to constitutionalize the Northwest Ordinance, which the Articles of Confederation did not have the power to support. This ordinance gave the newly formed Congress the power to create new states instead of allowing the states themselves to expand their own land claims.
http://benswann.com/lofti-who-actually-owns-americas-land-a-deeper-look-at-the-bundy-ranch-crisis/
The Property Clause and Northwest Ordinance are both limited in power and scope. Once a state is formed and accepted in the union, the federal government no longer has control over land within the state’s borders. From this moment, such land is considered property of the sovereign state.


202 posted on 04/15/2014 8:27:54 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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