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To: Kaslin

So... when people come out FOR murder and AGAINST murder, the rational thing to do is pass a law forgiving murders already committed.

And when people come out FOR bank robbery and AGAINST bank robbery, the rational thing to do is pass a law forgiving bank robberies already committed.

The law is the law; either it means something or it means nothing.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 5:02:07 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

I was thinking exactly the same. Yes, you can change the law and have it apply retroactively, and say it’s not Amnesty, but that is not what’s being proposed here.

If that were proposed a bank robber facing 30 years in jail, might only face 20 years, if the law changes before his trial (and maybe if it changes after), and future bank robbers would only be looking at 20 years.

Using the same logic, if “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” were simply a change in laws, then EVERYONE who enters the country, legally or not, should be allowed to go a Social Security Office and registers to stay here, work here, and bring family over, after paying some token “fine”. No one’s promising that - they’re saying, NO MORE ILLEGAL ENTRY after this second Amnesty, just like they promised after the first Amnesty.

Bottom-line...anything that legalizes these people is Amnesty. It’s NO DIFFERENT than when towns get rid of penalties for paying old parking tickets, and yes, they call that AMNESTY.


14 posted on 04/17/2014 5:13:13 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Jack Hammer

I get mad when people try to redefine the language. It’s like meeting Republicans from California (San Francisco area). They will INSIST that they’re conservatives because they only support increasing the state budget 8% per year, rather than 10%. If you ask them about abortion, gay marriage, the environment, etc. you’d swear you were talking to Blabbermouth Shultz. They will INSIST that they are the real conservatives, rather than the religious nutcases out there on the right.

AMNESTY is AMNESTY...either you keep it a crime punished by the threat of DEPORTATION or it’s AMNESTY.


15 posted on 04/17/2014 5:18:51 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Jack Hammer

Any BY THE WAY, I could CARE LESS what polling shows either way. The people being polled, for certain, have not thought it through. Tell them that their grand kids will be a living in a Third World nation if Amnesty passes, and THEN ask them if they support Amnesty.

The people polled simply want the issue to go away so they don’t have to hear all the “bickering” and they don’t really care which way it goes...so the questioner gets to direct them by the phrasing of the question.

(now I’ll calm down)


22 posted on 04/17/2014 5:23:54 AM PDT by BobL
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