The United States of SWAT? Military-style gov't units wreaking havoc on non-violent citizens.

National Review ^ | 04/18/2014 | John Fund

[Gen.Blather]

“I have to wonder what the solution will “really” be...”

I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said something along the lines of, “we need an strong enough outside foe to keep us all united.” We need another World War 2 to rid us of the useless takers by giving them jobs. To bring back industry and self-reliance. But a world war would more likely give us death within 20 minutes. We no longer have the luxury of two oceans and three days travel at the fastest speed between continents. Also, there is not a single politician I’d trust to guide us at this point.

[DanielRedfoot]

I remember that, those SWAT IDIOTS blindly opened fire in mass, in a subdivision, on a boat, hull first , no doubt sending rounds deflecting everywhere, with absolutely no target acquired. Amazing no neighbors were hurt.

And we are the ones that can’t be trusted with firearms...

[stevie_d_64]

To be another wet short on your back on a cold day...

I do not believe there would be enough citizenry to fight against a foe of the likes we fought against in those wars...

Wars nowadays are asymmetrical conflicts that are reluctantly joined by their opposition on purely a political and diplomatic reasoning...The enemy would almost have to take a few of those glad handers out in a most violent manner, and even then it is the collective cynicism of our side that would almost dance in the street if that were to occur, considering the political nature of the appointments of the current administration...

I posted a story earlier in the week about if a nuke were to take out D.C., what would we do???

Most of the responses were tongue in cheek, brash and off color, with most saying good riddance...

To which I could not as the original OP throw rocks at...

So I believe whomever is in the drivers seat (presidency) the opposition would still obfuscate, and or basically be indifferent to the loss of life of those in power (the majority) at the time...

Our society (politically) is that calluse...

To game it out...Do you believe if the BLM SWAT wannabes had opened fire and killed a lot of those ranchers and the people out there supporting them, would there really be a substantive “nationwide” outrage???

I do not believe so...There would be regional clashes, sure, but nothing across the entire country if that had occurred...

At the most, the immediate backlash would be directed right at the BLM director, and possibly the Secretary of the Interior...But for it to reach outside of that to any ethical malfeasance by an elected official like Harry Reid or even the president would not gain traction for simply political reasons, and the court of public opinion would be kept in check by a willing MSM to keep the majority of the population dumb to the truth...

That’s just my opinion...

As I have time to game it out more I may adjust that opinion slightly, but I am factoring in a lot of history into this...I do not see anything right now to change it up right now...

[Nowhere Man]

Wish I could buy one of these as a countermeasure:



Davidson/Cadillac armored car, 1915, top speed 70 MPH. It even has an M1895 Colt/Browning machine gun.

[Nowhere Man]

With the provocation I’ve seen thus far, I don’t see that happening. If they start mowing down civilians, possibly. But whoever fires first will lose the public’s support.

Unless it is a special case, the one who fires first is seen ad the aggressor, bad guy or just plain in the wrong. This is for another time since it is generally OT but looking at history, the big mistake the Confederacy made was to fire first.

[Nowhere Man]

This country is divided as at no other time since 1775 and 1861. Its almost 50-50. That cannot continue. One side has to win. It will not be decided at the ballot box.

It's scary and if we cannot turn this around, I'm afraid you are right. B-( I think maybe a modified version of this is the country will "whimper out" under it's own and break apart through entropy but this could be bad too, countries like Russia, the UK, Red China, France and so on could panic and send a few nukes our way as a counterforce strike.

[Nowhere Man]

I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said something along the lines of, “we need an strong enough outside foe to keep us all united.” We need another World War 2 to rid us of the useless takers by giving them jobs. To bring back industry and self-reliance. But a world war would more likely give us death within 20 minutes. We no longer have the luxury of two oceans and three days travel at the fastest speed between continents. Also, there is not a single politician I’d trust to guide us at this point.

That's the problem, I doubt you'd get a single consensus in a war right now with the American people and even if you could, such a war would get out of control and as you put it, nukes can be delivered in less time it takes a pizza. We at least get 20 minutes warning, I feel sorry for the poor Brits, they are lucky they get 30 seconds or if lucky 4 minutes.

[sheik yerbouty]

His “Black and Tans”? This is not racial. The British brought in special non military troops, often from their prisons to terrorize civilians, whether they were mixed up with the IRA or not..

[RedHeeler]

You seem to be a bit smelly. Good luck.

[noinfringers2]

The Feds look well fed.

[alarm rider]

I agree with your post. As I watched some of the remembrance of the Boston bomber thing, I could not help thinking that it was in many aspects, a complete ruse. The people there are essentially disarmed. The city was driven to a complete standstill. The police raided homes, kept whole neighborhoods locked down and generally acted as the arm of a police state.

Meanwhile, the citizens went all rah-rah afterward with emotional events. I thought at the time, “wait, this is supposed to be America”, why are the residents of a large city acting like children and cowering in their homes and then celebrating the alleged freedom of the place. Made no sense to me and still does not.