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To: kronos77
I'm astounded by the ineptness of the Kiev coup government. Attacking a checkpoint of citizens armed with bats in the early hours of Easter morning? Donetsk seems to be capable of defending itself, and now they'll never accept Kiev's authority.

I'm reading the pro-Kiev protestors here. Can't we stop the rhetoric, and pray for those who lost their lives and their families in this cowardly attack on civilians at a checkpoint? Looking at it as an outsider, wouldn't eveyone be better off if they stayed in their occupied buildings and avoided escalation until there's a vote? The irony is that western Ukraine probably would've prevailed in the vote with Crimea no longer voting in Ukraine.

Now you've probably got a Republic of Donetsk that can never be reconciled to western Ukraine.

25 posted on 04/20/2014 7:37:29 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Those who lost their lives are not innocents. They are proactively taking part in Russian foreign policy of annexation.

By agreement, they were supposed to vacate the government buildings.


26 posted on 04/20/2014 8:10:41 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: grania
"Now you've probably got a Republic of Donetsk that can never be reconciled to western Ukraine."

That would probably be, "so much the better" in the eyes of the EU and Kiev. The new guys in Kiev would have a good excuse to renege on what they owe Russia and the EU could make more loans against future pipeline revenues.

Look at maps of where the pipelines run. The Eastern Ukraine being independent or part of Russia isn't important to the flow of gas to the EU.

The two main things to remember are,
1 - The Spice must flow without greedy little Ukrainians free to set pipeline fees,
2 - Barry wants to ride the big worm and take credit for keeping the Spice flowing.

JMHO

33 posted on 04/20/2014 11:04:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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