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To: BroJoeK

“In four of those territories, Hitler’s armies were wildly welcomed by majority-German populations”

Is the Russian army in Ukraine right now?

That’s the slight difference between both situations that you and Victor Davis Hanson seem to be ignoring.

Russia did not take Crimea by force.

When the Russian army begins crossing borders and holding territory you might have a point. Until then the comparisons don’t make any sense.

This conflict was caused by the overthrow of the Ukrainian government earlier this year. Russia is only reacting to defend itself.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:14 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Russia did not take Crimea by force.

Dude. Putin admitted to it, already. Update your Kremlin talking points.

21 posted on 04/21/2014 9:50:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BarnacleCenturion
BarnacleCenturion: "Russia did not take Crimea by force."

Of course it did -- with a military assault followed by a phony plebiscite, just as Hitler did in, say, Austria.

BarnacleCenturion: "This conflict was caused by the overthrow of the Ukrainian government earlier this year.
Russia is only reacting to defend itself."

Anyone who fanaticizes that Russia itself was somehow threatened by political events in Ukraine is living in a total fantasy world.
Ukrainian politics were merely Putin's excuse for invading Crimea.

BarnacleCenturion: "Is the Russian army in Ukraine right now?"

The Russian army clearly threatens eastern Ukraine, and does anyone doubt that Russian state actors are involved in various quasi-military operations within eastern Ukraine?

BarnacleCenturion: "When the Russian army begins crossing borders and holding territory you might have a point.
Until then the comparisons don’t make any sense."

As I pointed out above, Hitler occupied or invaded five territories before the western allies declared war: Rhineland, Saarland, Austria, Czechoslovakia & Poland.

In historical analogy terms, Putin's invasion of Georgia (South Ossetia and Abkhazia) equates to Hitler's moves into Rhineland & Saarland.
Putin's invasion of Crimea equates to Hitler's Anschluss of Austria.

If Putin invades Eastern Ukraine, that will be his version of Hitler's takeover of Czechoslovakia, complete with O'bama playing the Neville Chamberlain role.

Then, what's next?
Is Estonia to be Putin's Poland, the "red line" which triggers another world war?
Why not make it so tough on Putin now, that he won't be tempted to take another bite out of the territory-conquest apple?

22 posted on 04/21/2014 10:02:05 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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