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The New Age of Gay Mr. Manners
Townhall.com ^ | April 30, 2014 | Brent Bozell

Posted on 04/30/2014 5:25:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

The times they are a-changing in ways even Bob Dylan didn't foresee.

I have an early childhood memory riding my bike and coming across a discarded booklet on proper social etiquette. It had the perfunctory rules. Gentlemen always open doors for ladies. Stand when a lady comes in the room. And so on. But the one I remember vividly is this: A lady always extends her hand first in greeting. Why? Fifty years ago I could understand the concept, but even then, I thought it was a bit much. Today that rule's been abandoned.

Who decides these things anyway? Miss Manners (Judith Martin) entered the arena in 1978 and instantly became America's politeness pundit, writing thousands of columns printed in more than 200 newspapers ever since. She's arguably the nation's most influential arbiter of social etiquette.

In 2007, she addressed the hand-extension issue, updated. The question from a reader: After spending dinner with a new acquaintance, is it appropriate to give her a kiss on the cheek? Answer: "Wait to see what the lady would do. If she put out her hand, you should have shaken it; if she offered her cheek, you should have kissed it, or rather the air close to it."

Some advice is Laura Schlessinger-esque, though: "Deadbeat Dad Not Welcome." "Snippy. Never." "Motherhood Is Not for Fathers." And my favorite: "Dress Properly for Court."

Some columns deal with broad policy. "Flag Etiquette." "Rules for Touring Tragedy Sites." "Protocol for Courtship."

There are those topics that best reflect the Prim & Proper etiquette discussion while best defining the Miss Manners genre. "Left is Right for Passing Plates." "Hold the Door." "Speak Your Mind, but Mind What You Say." "The Polite Way to Disapprove."

And then there's the advice worthy of the Delphic oracle herself. "Forks: To Spear or to Scoop?"

Oh, but how we've moved on from that.

The Washington Post has carried the Miss Manners column forever. Move over, Miss Manners, it's 2014, and it's a brave new world, and you now have company. Make room for the Post's new columnist, Mr. Manners.

You see it coming before you read the words.

"Steven Petrow will be joining our advice ranks," declares the Post, "with a special emphasis on LGBT and straight etiquette issues." Petrow, states his bio, is "the go-to source for modern manners ... known as Mr. Manners." Why was he chosen for the job? He will tell you it's largely because he's the former president of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association.

His column is called "Civilities" (get it, homophobes?), and Mr. Manners will tackle many thorny etiquette issues as well. In his introductory piece, he outlines some of the issues he's dealt with in the past. He muses about the gay cop who wrote in to say he was subjected to homophobic jokes, feeling it was his colleagues' way of convincing him to resign. Or the gay widower upset that his in-laws omitted him from his husband's obituary. Or the most vexing question of them all: How to introduce a married same-sex couple? (Answer: They "should be referred to as you would any legal spouse, and that's 'husband' and 'wife.'")

Questions, questions. "Do parents pay for their gay son or lesbian daughter's wedding?" "Is a dad expected to walk his son down the aisle?" "What pronoun (and restroom) is appropriate for a person who is transgender?" "How do you respond to 'assimilated' gays who find 'flamboyant' ones embarrassing?"

How do you respond to an entire industry you find embarrassing?

For the record, Mr. Manners would like it established that he is not infallible. "As I'm always quick to point out I'm far from perfect (just ask my husband!)."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: behavior; homosexualagenda; society; women
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1 posted on 04/30/2014 5:25:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Slouching towards Gomorrah.


2 posted on 04/30/2014 5:37:32 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Kaslin

First, I would try to severely restrict the number of situations where I would have to be subjected to acknowledgement of perversion.

Case in point, I was invited to a large 50th birthday party for a very good conservative. One friend of the family happened to have that affliction. I didn’t know who he was, though I knew of him. He was of a libertarian bent, and when I found myself talking with him, he was trying to telegraph, what he was about. I simply WOULD not get it. For me to speak freely would have ruined the atmosphere. I also could not treat it as if we were discussing which Wooster Street apizza was best (Sally’s, if you care to know). If he was going to get in my face with it, he would have to get explicit first. He didn’t do it. He knew what I was about. I knew what he was about. No voice raising or hair-pulling.


3 posted on 04/30/2014 5:39:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

Will he answer such questions as to how to thank the other end of the “glory Hole”?


4 posted on 04/30/2014 5:40:51 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: wbill
Did you read the excellent reply by reader Schadenfreude?

The correct pronoun to refer to someone who has undergone voluntary surgical and hormonal self-mutilation is "it". If it can't breed (due to lack of functioning equipment), it's an IT. Got it?

5 posted on 04/30/2014 5:41:00 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: wbill

I understand the reference—good show! But slouching is slow, rather racing to Gomorrah is what this once fair land is doing. God help us all.


6 posted on 04/30/2014 5:44:47 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: Kaslin

Stop the world, I want to get off!


7 posted on 04/30/2014 5:45:43 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Kaslin

In 1979 I was aware of the rule, not to extend a hand, for a shake, to a woman, until she put her hand out. When my new girlfriend introduced me to her Mom, in a moment of awkward nervousness, I extended my hand; she stood there, motionless, and I was mortified. Lesson learned !


8 posted on 04/30/2014 5:46:41 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: Kaslin

Should I give a damn if a gay is in the room? What is the proper way to ignore gays?


9 posted on 04/30/2014 5:49:48 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Kaslin

-— (Answer: They “should be referred to as you would any legal spouse, and that’s ‘husband’ and ‘wife.’”) -—

That’s sure to get some laughs.


10 posted on 04/30/2014 5:51:00 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Sam’s? No Pepe’s is the best...


11 posted on 04/30/2014 5:53:03 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Pepe’s? That chain up in the Buckland Hills mall?


12 posted on 04/30/2014 5:56:14 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

I have 2 good conservative friends who have gay female children. I never say anything one way or the other about gays so as not to offend my friends.


13 posted on 04/30/2014 5:56:41 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I’m guessing that it’s impolite to ask “Well, which one’s which? “. That’s TMI for me regardless.


14 posted on 04/30/2014 6:02:20 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Kaslin
For the record, Mr. Manners would like it established that he is not infallible. "As I'm always quick to point out I'm far from perfect (just ask my husband!)."

I think I'm gonna hurl!

I swear there is a reckoning coming, and it will not be pleasant.

15 posted on 04/30/2014 6:37:39 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Kaslin

So I guess the question “Who pitches and who catches?” is out.


16 posted on 04/30/2014 6:38:58 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Or perhaps “pitcher and catcher”?


17 posted on 04/30/2014 6:48:59 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

It is considered improper to introduce adulterous couples as such.


18 posted on 04/30/2014 6:52:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Kaslin
Mr Manner's, what the proper technique for removing feces from your face, mouth and genitals after making love to your boyfriend's anus?
19 posted on 04/30/2014 7:03:12 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: wbill
Slouching towards Gomorrah.

Really? We have surpassed the exploits of Gomorrah in ways that would make the denizens of that city blush.

20 posted on 04/30/2014 7:05:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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