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Italian judges report that convicted Amanda Knox killed roommate with knife . . .
New York Daily News ^ | April 29, 2014 | Bill Hutchinson

Posted on 04/30/2014 8:22:00 AM PDT by Scoutmaster

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To: mojito
Italy: great food, lovely buildings, stunning art.

And socially a complete cluster.

That reminds me of a joke I heard when over in Germany with the AF:

The difference between Heaven and Hell--

In Heaven, the police are British, the mechanics are German, the chefs are French, the lovers are Italian, and it's all organized by the Swiss.

In Hell, the police are German, the mechanics are French, the chefs are British, the lovers are Swiss, and it's all organized by the Italians.

41 posted on 04/30/2014 9:26:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: LongWayHome
I think it’s obvious that they are just making stuff up at this point.

I couldn't agree more. Their "evidence" gets more bizarre with each iteration.

42 posted on 04/30/2014 9:28:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

She’s lucky she got out of there. I shudder to think that we would turn her over to this witch hunt.


43 posted on 04/30/2014 9:31:02 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: avenir
What is the lowdown?

I don't know where to start.

Apparently everyone outside of the USA (except for a midwife in Tonga and a Botswanan named Nǃxau) believe Knox is guilty.

In the USA, there are websites, movements, legal defense groups, forensics experts, blogs, activists, and dog breeds devoted to proving Knox's innocence. When you read them, you are convinced Knox is innocent.

There are also USA websites, movements, legal groups, forensics experts, blogs, activists, and dog breeds devoted to showing Knox is guilty. When you read them, you are convinced Knox is guilty.

Knox lied. The Italian police lied. The Italian 'justice' system doesn't appear to have anything to do with justice, and prosecutors and judges have changed the legal theories of the crime and Knox's participation in it more often that I change socks. To Americans, the Italian system appears to include multiple bites at the apple by prosecutors.

A man, who was a friend of Knox's, has admitted his guilt, but (a) doing so gave him a reduced sentence and (b) he never claimed to be the sole person involved.

The police lies are plentiful. As for one Knox lie, she repeats the story about an hours-long, intimidating interrogation in a language she didn't know, before a 'forced' confession. However, dates and times show she received a translator within 30 minutes, and signed the confession within 90 minutes. Her interrogation to confession story is a lie.

Italian DNA experts weren't the quality of US DNA experts, and US DNA experts disagree.

Don't even get into the arguments over the alleged footprint of Knox in her roomie's blood near the front door. We'll need to talk about the fruit juice theory, what luminol fluoresces besides blood, whether Knox's USA forensics expert's DNA tests that conclude 'no blood' are correct, or other DNA experts are correct in saying Knox's DNA experts used method that didn't account for dilution of DNA through luminol, and more sensitive tests that show blood.

We need to address the confessed murder's previous crime using means of entry similar to means of entry into Knox's apartment, plus another crime in which he possessed knife similar to one of the knives used to murder Knox's roommate.

Yeah, it's complicated.

44 posted on 04/30/2014 9:33:25 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: angcat

Yes, American Beauty. The stress of this ordeal took a toll on her beauty but still hot.

45 posted on 04/30/2014 9:38:15 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Scoutmaster

The Italians are making this up as they go along.....common sense is all you need to figure out what happened in this case.


46 posted on 04/30/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: PapaBear3625
And, guess what? Countries without death penalties ROUTINELY demand that the death penalty be taken off the table before they will comply with an extradition request for one of their citizens to the US.

Yes,I'm fully aware of that and oppose that position vigorously...particularly with Canada and Mexico.If it were up to me my attitude with those two countries would be "no deal,if you adore our murderers so much you can keep them".With such a policy in place those two countries would come to their senses very quickly.

If they can make their laws govern whether one of their nationals gets extradited here, then WE can apply the same principle...

Of course we can.As I've suggested,I'd *never* extradite anyone,of any nationality,to Germany for the crime of "denying the Holocaust" because it's a silly law.I'd also never extradite anyone,of *any* nationality,to China because their legal system is a total fraud.But this is murder,not denying the Holocaust....and it's Italy,a civilized country,and not Bangladesh.

And BTW...this girl can appeal her case not only to the Italian courts but to the European Court of Justice...a court made up of judges that make Supreme Court Justice Quotamayor look positively medieval by comparison.

47 posted on 04/30/2014 9:43:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Scoutmaster

Wow! Thanks for that roller coaster ride through the case.


48 posted on 04/30/2014 9:58:19 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Doc Savage

Well, I, for one, am glad we base our murder convictions on guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and not your idea of “the odds”. Looking at the odds of someone’s involvement may be a good way to narrow down a list of suspects, but if the evidence isn’t there, you don’t continue on and convict someone based on that standard.


49 posted on 04/30/2014 10:03:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Italy is beautiful beyond words.”

I’ve been to Italy and the camera came out often to capture some beautiful views. But, I had to hold my nose often too. And, the Italians are surly and lazy. And, everything there is utterly corrupt. And, the beauty of Italy is no grander than one can easily find in Carmel CA, Santa Fe, or the Napa Valley, or many other places in the US with similar climate.

The most beautiful Italian city, Venice, made me want to take a shower every 30 minutes with the smells and disgustingly filthy water everywhere. As for crime, being a hundred miles from any serious crime will put you in Switzerland.

Reconsider.


50 posted on 04/30/2014 10:09:50 AM PDT by anton
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To: avenir

That was 2% of it, or less.


51 posted on 04/30/2014 10:22:44 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: avenir

That was 2% of it, or less.


52 posted on 04/30/2014 10:22:44 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Uncle Chip
Pinging Uncle Chip.

Be you. Beaucoup research on Knox's innocence in January

Be Another Freeper. Beaucoup research on Knox's guilt in January.

Searching, but ? Who was Another Freeper?

53 posted on 04/30/2014 10:26:02 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Uncle Chip; Tired of Taxes

Ah. Tired of Taxes.


54 posted on 04/30/2014 10:27:52 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

This woman is so innocent of this crime, it is a travesty that she is still being pursued. Italian criminal courts area joke. They have the killer already in jail.


55 posted on 04/30/2014 10:29:03 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: avenir

This is one of the biggest travesties ever. She is totally innocent. They have the killer in jail. Italians run a joke/kangaroo court system.


56 posted on 04/30/2014 10:30:34 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m a Canadian, i.e. outside the USA. I don’t believe Knox is guilty. I don’t believe she’s innocent, either. What I do believe is that I would not be able to vote to convict her on the circumstantial, contradictory, and incomplete evidence available.


57 posted on 04/30/2014 10:31:23 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I would not send back an innocent person.


58 posted on 04/30/2014 10:31:34 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: All; Uncle Chip; Tired of Taxes
One of the more recent, detailed, FR evidence threads. Uncle Chip and Tired of Taxes at their best.
59 posted on 04/30/2014 10:31:40 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: All; Uncle Chip; Tired of Taxes
One of the more recent, detailed, FR evidence threads. Uncle Chip and Tired of Taxes at their best.
60 posted on 04/30/2014 10:31:40 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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