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Neo-Nazis may turn Ukraine into new Lebanon, Israeli rabbi says
Vestnik Kavkaza ^ | 5/8/2014 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2014 2:46:20 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Israeli rabbi Michael Finkel says the Jewish community is on high alert because of the influence of the neo-Nazi's within Kiev's temporary government. "This is Right Sector. This is the peole who are marching in Nazi uniforms with SF on their arms and on their military uniforms," Finkel says.

According to the rabbi, it is possible that Ukraine could turn into a country similar to Lebanon. "In Lebanon, there's an official government and there is Hezbollah, which is a terrrorist organization linked to the government. They're members of the parliament, and there's a Hezbollah militia over thre, a separate army, and they're alo linked to the government. What happens in Ukraine now is that there will be a government, which is officially not Nazi, but there will be Nazi parliament members. There is a Nazi army, which is parallel to the regular Ukrainian army, and there will be Nazi members, maybe, in the government," Finkel says.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agateprop; aggieprop; agitprop; antifascist; antisemitism; bandera; banderas; fascism; fascist; kiev; lebanon; michaelfinkel; neonazis; ntsa; pravysektor; rabbi; rabbis; rightsector; russianoccupation; stephanbandera; svoboda; tyranny; ukraine
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To: varmintman

The Eurasianist Putin called the fall of the USSR a tragedy and re-instituted the May Day parades. This revanchist lunatic is not even a Russian nationalist. He is ensuring that Russia will be non-slavic Muslim in a few decades thanks to his refusal to part with Muslim peoples in Russia. He is a a delusional traitor to Western civilization poisoned by grievance for revenge.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 10:20:26 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Can we force Putin to get rid of the Eurasianists in his party and stop using Aleksandr Dugin’s book in Russian army officer training?


42 posted on 05/08/2014 10:21:40 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Mike Darancette
Here's a little critical thinking, why are people who came to power by having a mob take over government buildings calling people who do exactly the same thing "terrorists" and have ordered the Ukrainian Army to use lethal force against Ukrainian civilian protesters doing exactly the same things they did?

They're cut from the same cloth as the democrats in the US, laws are for "those other people".

43 posted on 05/08/2014 10:28:12 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Ukrainian civilian protesters doing exactly the same things they did?

I don't buy that premise.

44 posted on 05/08/2014 11:21:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
Well, to the extent that no one in Eastern Ukraine has yet been burning police alive, you'd be right. They do, however, beat a few of them.

It doesn't much matter what you can "buy", the facts are the facts and until Kiev ordered the Ukrainian Army to break up Ukrainian civilian protesters in East Ukraine using deadly force as they saw fit people in Eastern Ukraine were doing exactly what the Kiev Kiddies did in Kiev (other than burning cops alive, that is).

If they armed themselves at that point they had every bit as much right to do so as did the civilians who confronted the BLM in this country. That is, they have the right to use lethal force to defend themselves from a government intent on imposing it's will by the use of lethal force.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

45 posted on 05/08/2014 11:32:10 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

I don’t buy the premise that the men in the green uniforms with the weapons are local Ukrainian citizens.


46 posted on 05/09/2014 7:28:32 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: hubel458
So, should we bomb Russia?

If you want to, you are one of the few that would want to, as it would be a crazy move.

So, since we can't do anything about the fascists in Russia we shouldn't do anything about them in Ukraine?

Ukraine, is a much smaller country, and Kiev can be pressured much more readily that Russia to toss their anti-Semites and Fascists from the Kiev gov’t.

Hence, you red herring that distracts from this opportunity...

47 posted on 05/09/2014 7:48:48 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Zhang Fei
So, to deal with the Fascists in Russia what should be done?

Bomb Russia. That would be stupid.

So, since we can't go that route and have no business going that route, we shouldn’t do anything about Ukraine?

The U.S. can do something about Ukraine, as it is a much smaller country, and Kiev can be pressured much more easily to toss ALL of its anti-Semites and Fascists from positions of Gov’t.

48 posted on 05/09/2014 7:51:45 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Zhang Fei

But you failed to prove that all mass-murderers were Jewish Russian Imperlalists which you claimed.

And recent history certainly doesn’t help you, either...

You will do anything to further RINO interventionism, right?


49 posted on 05/09/2014 7:54:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Zhang Fei
So, we can only deal with Russia's impending annexation of Ukraine, but not at the same time deal with fascists in Ukraine and anti-Semites in Kiev's gov’t?

If you say that we must deal simultaneously with Russia's fascists, I have no problem with that - just give some ideas as to how to do this.

Remember, though, we cannot militarily intervene with Russia, but we can sanction them, and we can sanction Ukraine, too, for having anti-Semites in positions of power in Kiev’s gov’t. And for having Right sector, too.

50 posted on 05/09/2014 7:57:23 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: GeronL
They ousted their thug regime, and what they get is a regime that has a gov’t that has a decent chunk of gov’t seats with Svoboda scum and Right Sector fascists roaming the country - with Kiev apparently having its thumb stuck up... and doing nothing to rein either of them in.
51 posted on 05/09/2014 7:59:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Mike Darancette
So D.C. can't put pressure on Ukraine to toss all the anti-Semites from the Ukrainian gov’t and pressure Ukraine to corral all Right sector fascists roaming the country?

Some would then point to Russia's fascists, which they have every right to do, and should.

But Ukraine is a much smaller country, needs the U.S's help. And so if they want IMF funds, then they need to first get rid of ALL Svoboda in gov’t and rein in ALL right Sector.

52 posted on 05/09/2014 8:03:44 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: BobL
Yes, we have the RINO, Establishment GOP-e here at FR that deflect away from Svoboda and Right Sector.

Yes, Russia has some fascists, and yes the U.S. gov’t needs to bring that up, but there is nothing stopping the U.S. and IMF from saying that Ukraine must get rid of ALL anti-Semites from gov’t position's in Ukraine and rein in ALL Right Sector roaming Ukraine BEFORE they will get ANY IMF funds.

53 posted on 05/09/2014 8:07:07 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: varmintman
There are fascists in Russia.

Russia should have pressure put on them to deal with them.

But the U.S. can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time, too.

Pressure must be put on Kiev to get rid of ALL anti-Semites in the UKrainian gov’t and to rein in ALL fascist Right sector roaming the Ukraine BEFORE they get any IMF funds.

54 posted on 05/09/2014 8:09:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: caww

We have many RINOS and GOP Establishment types here at FR (and on this thread) who don’t want Ukraine to have local, home rule and be autonomous.

And yes, thety are anti-Kiev, not pro-Russia.

Unfortunately, Ukraine may end up turning to Russia.


55 posted on 05/09/2014 8:14:16 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Rashputin

Apparently you know that there are some at FR who are Establishmnet GOP-e types, who want big-gov’t interventionism.


56 posted on 05/09/2014 8:16:29 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What I can’t understand is why the supposed Ukrainian Fascist Anti-Semites are now a problem for the Jews and they weren’t before the Russian invasion. Are the Jews in Ukraine fleeing Russian infiltrators or native Ukrainians who they have co-existed for years?


57 posted on 05/09/2014 9:41:00 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: All
John McCain Went To Ukraine And Stood On Stage With A Man Accused Of Being An Anti-Semitic Neo-Nazi
58 posted on 05/09/2014 9:45:47 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. And anything from the MSM.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All; caww; tcrlaf; Count of Monte Fisto; DesertRhino; wetphoenix; ...

AgitProp?

Puhleeze.

Or is it really anti-Semitism?

I wish the Admin Moderator would quit allowing “agitprop” and not allowing other things to be puit on the tag lines. Bias?

Spam?

“AgitProp” IS SPAM.


59 posted on 05/10/2014 2:30:09 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Mike Darancette; McGruff

To: Mike

They seem to be a problem now, because Right sector and others may be the muscle being used by Kiev, as Kiev apparently has little to no military.

“What I can’t understand is why the supposed...”

Supposed?

And the rebels in Syria are supposed terrorists?

Would you stand next to McCain when he had a photo op with supposed Syrian “rebels” or stand next to McCain when he stood next to Svoboda in Ukraine in December? If so, then you are not a true, real Freeper!!!

FR is anti-RINO (McCain). Period.

Are you the only one who doesn’t think that even Svoboda (who used to be known as “Social Nationalist” until they chnaged their name - remember the Nazis were the National Socialist Party (Nazi) - aren’t anti-Semitic.

Nazi: National Socilaust Party

Svoboda: Before make-over: Social Nationalist

Stand with Isreal, the Jewish people and againt RINOs, and the GOP-e/DEM-e!


60 posted on 05/10/2014 2:37:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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