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Compromise on Gays Pleases No One, Scouts Are Learning
New York Times ^ | MAY 8, 2014 | KIRK JOHNSON

Posted on 05/09/2014 7:39:54 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

Pascal Tessier is a 17-year-old Eagle Scout in suburban Maryland who says scouting made him who he is today, with its lessons about morality, leadership and responsibility. And those very strengths, this openly gay high school senior said, are what compel and equip him to fight back now against Scout policies on gays that he believes are wrong.

After long, anxious debate, the Boy Scouts’ national board voted a year ago to allow openly gay youths to participate in scouting, while continuing to exclude gay leaders age 18 and over. It was promoted as a compromise intended to offer the organization time to figure out how to proceed.

Instead, it has brought the Scouts only more ire from all directions and produced a house divided.

The awkwardness of the compromise — don’t-ask-don’t-tell silence on the one hand, and a supposedly welcoming embrace on the other, with an 18th birthday dividing the two — has emboldened gay scouts like Pascal to step forward with passionate editorials and online petitions.

Conservative critics have been no less vehement. Rob Schwarzwalder, a senior vice president at the Family Research Council, a Washington-based group, said: “Judeo-Christian sexual ethics are fixed. Dislike or reject them, if you wish, but they are not malleable. How can two boys both pledge to be ‘morally straight’ when they operate out of two different moral perspectives concerning human sexuality?”

The partial ban is also proving legally problematic with two distinct classes of members treated differently.

In California, for example, state judges could be barred from involvement with the Boy Scouts under a proposed change of the rules on judicial ethics, which bar participation in groups practicing “invidious discrimination” but currently exempts “nonprofit youth organizations,” like the Scouts.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; homosexualagenda
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To: MrB

…true that….


21 posted on 05/09/2014 8:03:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Second Amendment First

There was no compromise, only a slow CAVE to morality.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 8:03:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Second Amendment First

Compromise always ticks everyone off.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 8:04:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First

As Gomer Pyle would say: “Surprise! Surprise!”

You can’t compromise with the left or with sodomites. You can only defeat them, and then it needs to be a Cartheginian Peace.


24 posted on 05/09/2014 8:05:39 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: ontap
There’s no compromising with these bastards....they require full surrender.

Some of us are old enough to remember when their cause of the day was something called "civil unions." Just give us those, and we'll be content . . .

Oh, wait, that wasn't long ago at all - Bill Clinton was president!

25 posted on 05/09/2014 8:08:16 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

And speaking of civil unions, remember in 1996, when Congress passed the Defense of Marriage Act? Many liberals voted for that law. It’s amazing now, to think that good liberals such as Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, Joe Lieberman, Pat Leahy, Tom Harkin, all voted for that law. So it wasn’t too many years ago that liberals were willing to say that they believe that marriage is a man and a woman.

Today, saying you believe marriage is a man and a woman gets you targeted for destruction by the left. Amazing how things have changed.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 8:15:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Red Badger

...we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender,...


27 posted on 05/09/2014 8:15:56 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Pascal Tessier is a 17-year-old Eagle Scout in suburban Maryland who says scouting made him who he is today, with its lessons about morality, leadership and responsibility.

Apparently his version of morality doesn't include staying out of butt holes.

28 posted on 05/09/2014 8:17:46 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

We know this to be true, what you say about so-called “transgenders”, by the fact that some schools are requiring that the so-called “transgenders” be allowed to use the opposite sex’s restrooms and locker rooms. I’d like to see them forced to put their money where their mouths are by a “transgender” female calling herself a man, suing to be allowed onto a male football or basketball team. When it comes to the money, the hypocrites show their true (double) standards.


29 posted on 05/09/2014 8:21:02 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Mouton

the Boy Scouts problem was their reliance on big-corporate money to fund nice offices and high salaries at their world HQ

They learned that whoever pays the bills eventually will call the tune.


30 posted on 05/09/2014 8:24:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: madprof98

I’m old enough to remember when the rallying cry was to merely “get government out of our bedrooms”. States began repealing anti-sodomy laws, and we were immediately on the slippery slope, that slippery slope which the left always mockingly claims is a conservative figment of the imagination.

Just like giving into baby murder, and now Belgium has legislated that children have the “right” to decide to die. The same children who would be deemed as being abused if they had to do chores or paid labor suitable to their age.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 8:25:50 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ontap
There’s no compromising with these bastards....they require full surrender.

They won't be satisfied until parents can be jailed for merely objecting to these perverts having their way with their kids.

32 posted on 05/09/2014 8:26:19 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Pascal said he planned, for now at least, to study psychology at the College of Wooster in Ohio beginning this fall, with the idea of becoming a counselor for adolescents

Deer hunters go where the deer are.

33 posted on 05/09/2014 8:27:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They knew even then what the end game was. Just as with academia, the media,organised “Christian” religion, and the formerly much-derided “establishment”, the left is inexorable in its long march through American and global institutions. They are in it for the long haul, and permanency.

The Bible, through John of Patmos, gave us the game plan centuries ago.


34 posted on 05/09/2014 8:30:00 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Second Amendment First
"Walking Dead and don't know it yet" DUMP! Errr...BUMP!

No one sacrifices children on the alter of leftist perversion without resistance and eventual destruction. All in good time, the scouts will eventually go "out of business" over such idiocy as catering to the mentally ill left.

35 posted on 05/09/2014 8:30:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
The left doesn’t give up. It’s one “gimme gimme” after another. What’s next after this, oh yeah, the “transgender” crowd. That sure didn’t take long.

Brings to mind the saying: Give a mouse a cookie and he'll want a glass of milk.

36 posted on 05/09/2014 8:35:54 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Second Amendment First

If he is choosing to lead a pervert life then the morality lessons were failed............


37 posted on 05/09/2014 8:39:02 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Second Amendment First

THIS is what the GOP-e wanted to elect for President.

Tell me again how Romney was that much different than Obama.


38 posted on 05/09/2014 8:41:25 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

the left will not be happy until BSA is about nude gay sex camps


39 posted on 05/09/2014 8:45:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Mouton

He’s also the ‘source’ of the joke...........


40 posted on 05/09/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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