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Posted on 05/12/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
Film it in Detroit. Lots of neighborhoods that need burning.
Detroit Denby, Class of 67
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Thanks Kid Shelleen for the heads up
I remember when this happened. Am I really that old?
The fire started when the cops dropped a satchel stuffed with explosives from a helicopter onto a wooden "bunker" built on the roof of the MOVE house. Once it was burning, the police commissioner told the fire chief to let it burn to the ground, but never anticipated that it would get out of control and consume the entire neighborhood. He was a real idiot.
Yes, I’m a little vague with the details after all these years, but I do remember that the fire spread out of control and burned about a half a block of row houses right down to the ground.
It was a big scandal at the time.
I think the mayor then was Mayor Rizzo....
This is on right now on my local PBS station. Very interesting.
MOVE, huh? Well I guess they did.
there is footage of a black helicopter (yes i’m sorry probably the FIB’s because philly did not own a chopper at the time) drop a (maybe the same stuff as waco tear gas i dunno) explosive something on the roof. It was mostly concussive because it was not a huge flame explosion. The scenario was that the roof then began to burn because the movites had put gasoline in the containers on the roof. No fed guys have ever been called to account for the dropping of the device on the roof. Might be the same BATF/DEA that killed a cook at the amazon club on the delaware river. All i know is, there are too many of them about town. When i watched waco i had deja vu all over again. This time it was Wilson Goode as Mayor. Not a bad Mayor. Just couldn’t control the cops after one of their own got killed.
yes no one, philly didn’t own a chopper. it was the feds.
your correct. a relative. i think a bad drug deal.
i don’t think it was incendiary. as i recall it was more concussive. the fire took awhile to start.
rebuilt by an inside/shoddy politically connected contractor and the news ones torn down again.
not police the philly cops did not have choppers or ordinance to accomplish the task.
i don’t believe the state police pack dynamite. It was an unmarked chopper.
Okay, so today is YOUR day to masochistically walk into a thread leading with your face.
Note that this was before Waco.
Other accounts in the news (some of which were sanitized, possibly to prevent further outrage and/or rioting) claimed "an explosive device" or even "a grenade" had fallen from a helicopter, but the accounts discussed at the time the Waco Massacre was happening stated an incendiary device which was intended to set the roof on fire and force people out had in fact penetrated the roof and gone off inside the building.
It takes a few minutes for a fire, even under those circumstances to be readily apparent outside the building--windows have to heat and break, the fire to develop to the point where the walls are involved. With older row houses like those in the MOVE situation, interior walls are likely plaster and very resistant to fire for a while before the lath are heated to ignition and the materials start sloughing inside the building, and that might account for the initial delay.
In the end, some 60 houses were destroyed in the ensuing conflagration, and 11 died (Men, Women, and Children). One woman, one child, and three adult males escaped the building and the police sharpshooters in the area.
If some of that sounds a mite like Waco to you, well, it did to me at the time, too.
Exactly. If MOVE had been white people, the city would have taken care of the problem promptly.
And the new houses were far inferior to what the city burned down. They were plagued with problems. The city and the residents were still fighting it out 20 years later. The incompetence of the city government caused the problem in the first place, and the incompetence of the city government prolonged the problem for decades afterwards.
Oh, ok. NPR.
and harshly
“Just couldn’t control the cops after one of their own got killed.”
IIRC, he ordered the bomb dropped. That is why the story got no legs from the race-hustling industry.
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