it should have been nipped in the bud and NEVER allowed to get to the point that assaulting the house was necessary. but like always, tolerance kills again...
Posted on 05/12/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
JASON OSDER was a fifth-grader living just outside Philadelphia on May 13, 1985, the day police firebombed the MOVE house on Osage Avenue in West Philadelphia, igniting a fire in which 11 people, including five children, died, and the surrounding neighborhood was destroyed.
He never forgot.
(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...
MOVE was an African panther style socialist separatist movement. They fortified a house, armed to the teeth, built a bunker on top, and blasted the neighborhood all night with obscenities from loudspeakers.
A standoff started when cops attempted to intervene. This group had already killed one cop.
The two one pound dynamite bombs dropped by State police were meant to take out the bunker on the roof.
Firemen couldn’t move in because they were still shooting from the house after the fire started. Remember that just a few years earlier, something like 5 firemen were wounded in a crossfire with this cult.
This isn’t some government over reach like the Bundy ranch, or Weaver or Waco.
This was more like the LAPD and the SLA shootout, or encountering Weather Underground. These were bad news A-holes that im glad were wiped out. They are being deified because they are black, nothing more.
That’s a little like saying Ambassador Stevens died of smoke inhalation.
Let The Fire Burn has been on Streaming Netflix for a while, now.
“The entire block was destroyed because the fire department was ordered to stand down..”
Firemen don’t put water on a fire while under gunfire. No city expects that of them,,,. The A-holes inside had a history of fun shootouts. This one got em burned up. More air for me to breathe I guess.
They did firebomb it.
it should have been nipped in the bud and NEVER allowed to get to the point that assaulting the house was necessary. but like always, tolerance kills again...
Well, there’s no dancing around it; there were objects designed to start fires dropped on the area. That, in my estimation, constitutes a “firebombing”.
It was a loooong time ago, and my ageing memory has become VERY foggy.
Firemen don’t put water on a fire while under gunfire. No city expects that of them,,,. The A-holes inside had a history of fun shootouts. This one got em burned up. More air for me to breathe I guess.
Yes, but generally, government officials don’t start the life-threatening fires.
There’s something about this story that sounds disturbingly familiar...I hope that race isn’t coloring (so to speak) your opinion.
“I just ran a search, and I can’t find anything about Goode taking a bullet. His grand-nephew, yes, not but Goode himself.”
I remember the headline in the daily news. I still laugh about it to this day...
It would be a one in four chance that his “grand nephew” would even have the same family name.
Actually we don’t know WHAT he died from, if it comes
down to it.
Knew a guy in the Air Force who’s mother owned one of the houses the police burned burned down. She was in the process of selling it and the buyers were only a few days away from closing. She was able to back out of the sale. The government rebuilt it and she made a hefty profit.
That’s how I remember it watchinglive on television. There should be tons of news footage of the event. I think I watched it on CNN.
Almost 30 years ago the cops were attacking civilians with what could be considered military type equipment. And since they got away with it they’ve gotten a lot better at it.
Remember it well. The mayor was in consultation with the police throughout. Mayor Wilson Goode is black.
The smokebomb was meant to smoke them out of the house. Instead, the poorly-maintained roof caught fire, spreading to nearby roofs. It was a catastrophe and a disaster; but it wasn't a bunch of rednecks displaying bias. Many of the cops and firemen were also black.
The Back to Nature group in the house had driven the neighbors crazy for months on end with loud music throughout the night and many other provocative and antisocial behaviors. They were holding their children hostage and denying them education and proper exercise or food. The neighbors were demanding action. Unfortunately, human beings were involved, and mistakes were made.
I was in Philly then, and knew several of the principals on the officialdom side. I agree with your version. I also knew folks in that section of the City. Certainly no one wants their house burned down, but it’s worth noting that the City provided brand new houses, and also appointed a black Police Commissioner after this disaster to help heal the public’s concerns.
See post 38. Race was not the reason for the decisions, unless you suspect the black mayor of approving a plan to hurt black perpetrators.
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