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To: Arm_Bears
Rubio backs amnesty—’Nuff said.

Gotta ask the question: What do you think should be done? If the answer is to deport all the illegals, I agree that it should be done.

Is there anyone here that actually believes that it would ever happen? If there is, I want some of their mood supplements for my own personal use.

Barring a mass deportation, that ain't gonna happen, what could/should be done that actually has a snowball's chance of implementation?

Pipe dreams may make one feel good, but they're useless exercises in fantasy land. Until we are able to look reality in the eye without going into a pipe-dream-induced fantasy, we will not have anyone we can rally around. There are even some yo-yos claiming Cruz is now unclean for some perceived slight.

We mock the Left for not being in touch with reality, but they have a cohesive factor that ensures their on-going success in destroying Freedom. We have fantasies.

17 posted on 05/14/2014 8:48:52 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb
Gotta ask the question: What do you think should be done? If the answer is to deport all the illegals, I agree that it should be done.

Is there anyone here that actually believes that it would ever happen? If there is, I want some of their mood supplements for my own personal use.

Barring a mass deportation, that ain't gonna happen, what could/should be done that actually has a snowball's chance of implementation?

Phony strawman used by the amnesty advocates. The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does. During the 2006 amnesty debate, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) commissioned a Zogby poll offering respondents not the false choice between mass deportation or amnesty (a word CIS did not use in the survey), but rather a three-way choice between mass deportation, earned legalization, and attrition — and attrition was preferred two-to-one over legalization.

We mock the Left for not being in touch with reality, but they have a cohesive factor that ensures their on-going success in destroying Freedom. We have fantasies.

What is fantastical about enforcing our laws, securing the border, implementing a system to track and deport visa overstays, and shutting off the job magnet thru mandatory e-verify? We need to make our country as unwelcoming as possible for illegal aliens. No sanctuary cities and states. No social benefits, in-state tuition, driver's licenses, etc. for the lawbreakers. When you reward something, you get more of it.

You seem to have bought the amnesty prostitutes' premise that we only have two choices, i.e., mass deportation or a blanket amnesty. We are now being stampeded by Dems and Reps, business, the labor unions, ethnic groups like La Raza, the churches, and the Chamber of Commerce that we must do it now.

In 1986 we had a one time amnesty that the proponents said would solve the problem and that there would never be another amnesty. The USG estimated 1 million would apply, but the true number turned out to be 2.7 million. Now we have 11.5 million lawbreakers (USG estimate) and are being asked to do the same thing again. This time around let's just try enforcement without amnesty.

22 posted on 05/14/2014 9:11:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: trebb

There won’t be mass deportation and it’s not necessary. We used to have lots of illegals in AL and they suddenly vanished after tighter laws were passed. They self-deported. We reaLly don’t need that much really - fence plus enforcement of existing laws.


27 posted on 05/14/2014 11:13:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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