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The Forgotten Massacre
Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2014 | Paul Greenberg

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:01:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Sherman Logan

you are attempting to split hairs


21 posted on 05/24/2014 8:01:04 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: null and void

Oh definitely, there is always an evil and stupid populace willing to turn into monsters if given half a chance


22 posted on 05/24/2014 8:02:01 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sherman Logan

what a depraved creature, Chivington. Why was he not prosecuted?


23 posted on 05/24/2014 8:07:38 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Disagree.

Muslims and leftists also both hate the USA, western civ and Christianity. As did both the Nazis and the Soviets.

But for completely different reasons. Lumping them all together as “the same thing” is, IMNTBHO, intellectual laziness.

The problem with this is that it encourages us to combat them in the same way, which is generally wildly inappropriate.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

well, like I said, West is best. Judeo-Christian is the Way. You cannot “co-exist” when the Mohammedans want to kill you.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 8:11:44 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Naaahhhh, I didn’t tell you the creepy part...


26 posted on 05/24/2014 8:12:05 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: yldstrk
Why was he not prosecuted?

Because of the general amnesty granted for crimes committed during the Civil War.

However, his actions were investigated and condemned by a congressional committee, and he was generally shunned by society in later life.

27 posted on 05/24/2014 8:12:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Kaslin
Nathan Bedford Forrest warned the soldiers at Fort Pillow three times to surrender or he would show them no quarter when he kicked their butts.

They had the poor sense to taunt him from behind the fortress's high walls and when he captured the fort and when the soldiers began to run he shot them all even the ones who jumped into the Mississippi River to try to escape.

These soldiers apparently did not know the meaning of quarter, which means to allow one to surrender peacefully.

Next fort NBF approached with the same terms wisely accepted the terms of surrender.

War, who would think it could ever be violent.

Forrest was a genius who inspired Rommel and Patton. He is the only General in the Civil War who began as a Private. He is discounted because he was on the losing side. Sherman was more brutal but winners don't have to apologize.

28 posted on 05/24/2014 8:12:52 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: oldfart
All these atrocities will happen again...

Here's something to think about. When Hitler first took power (in 1933), he was too weak to do much damage. It took him years to become a confident, absolute dictator. Same goes for Stalin.

So I wonder. Suppose the UN could enforce a rule. No leader can be in power for more than, say, five years. That would derail many future Hitlers. And I picked five years because Hitler started WW II six years after taking power.

Yeah, I know. The mere thought of the UN doing anything one way or the other is ridiculous. And there are other problems with my idea as well. But I wonder...

29 posted on 05/24/2014 8:13:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Too many dictators for life in the UN. Still, it’s an interesting idea...


30 posted on 05/24/2014 8:18:37 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Kaslin

In composing the piece Paul Greenberg writing in Townhall could have added that prior to WWI our military was integrated but Woodrow Wilson The “Great Progressive” instituted segregation which was discontinued only until Eisenhower took office.


31 posted on 05/24/2014 8:18:44 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: LS

We must rememeber these black heroes who died at the hands of sadists SS Troops.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 8:25:30 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Sherman Logan

watch as todays Germans start to focus their hate on Muslims—they are wearing out their welcome and no amount of propaganda can cover over their outrages. Unlike the Jew, the Mulins really kill people and abuse their rights in the nations of Europe. A day of reconing is coming.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 8:29:13 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
he shot them all even the ones who jumped into the Mississippi River to try to escape

What are you saying here? Are you saying that Forrest shot those men because they were trying to escape? If that's the case, then perhaps Forrest can be given a pass.

As you said, it is war. And war is a nasty and brutish business. But then you must also give a pass to the U-boat commanders who machine-gunned lifeboats.

But if Forrest shot those men because they had refused to surrender, then, genius or not, Forrest is a monster and a war criminal.

A warning of "no quarter" is not good enough. In fact, it is a pathetic excuse. Would it have been acceptable for the Germans to murder the Malmedy prisoners if only the Germans had announced no quarter ahead of time?

It is honorable to refuse to surrender, and to fight for your country. It is not honorable to shoot unarmed men.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 8:36:14 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Elsie

Among the items found at at this peaceful Indian village at Sand creek were..Scalps of white men and boys so fresh they had not been stretched on hoops or tanned, a blanket fringed with the hair of white women...

Peaceful Indians indeed.


35 posted on 05/24/2014 8:42:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yldstrk

Chivington later returned to Colorado, gave a speech at an Old Timer’s Day and went over what led up to the killings that day.

As he finished he yelled loudly “I STAND BY SAND CREEK!”
The crowd who remembered those bad old days went wild with cheering!

MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by J P DUNN Jr.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 8:49:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin

Anyone remember WAKE ISLAND? After the Japanese captured it they took all the US civilian work force there to the beach and shot them down.


37 posted on 05/24/2014 8:51:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

disgusting


38 posted on 05/24/2014 8:55:16 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
They have acknowledged what they did.. They also apologized.
(Bit more complicated on the Japanese side :/)
39 posted on 05/24/2014 8:56:58 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: yldstrk; Sherman Logan
you are attempting to split hairs


He is good at that.. Sometimes pisses me off, but he is usually correct..
40 posted on 05/24/2014 8:59:17 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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