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Authorities investigate handcuffed Iowan's death (Cops are now DROWNING suspects?)
KCCI ^ | 06/02/2014 | Eric Hanson

Posted on 06/03/2014 1:24:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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"After the subject fell into the lake, the trooper first tried to retrieve him, and then actually go into the water to rescue him, and wasn't able to do so."

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1 posted on 06/03/2014 1:24:27 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

The big drunk football player mouthed off and the cops killed him.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 1:27:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like an escape attempt gone bad.


3 posted on 06/03/2014 1:29:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Thug-cops are getting creative.


4 posted on 06/03/2014 1:31:02 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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handcuffed and wearing a life jacket when he went off the boat, but his life jacket fell off

did the handcuffs "fall off" too?

5 posted on 06/03/2014 1:31:46 PM PDT by blueplum
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Thug-cops are getting creative.

Many of these "Serve and Protect" blue coats will happily jump to Obama's army given the call.

6 posted on 06/03/2014 1:33:19 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Authorities said Ellingson was handcuffed and wearing a life jacket when he went off the boat, but his life jacket fell off

If your arms are through the armholes of a life jacket and you're handcuffed, how does it "fall off"?!

7 posted on 06/03/2014 1:34:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Responsibility2nd

anyone know the if the family dog is OK?


8 posted on 06/03/2014 1:35:07 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds like an escape attempt gone bad.

Really? Now I don't have a lot of experience with life jackets, but it seems to me that you put your arms through openings just like a coat. If that's the case, just how did " his life jacket fell off when he hit the water." if he was handcuffed? Either the cops did not insure that their prisoner was safely transported or " Lucy, you got some splainin to do!"

9 posted on 06/03/2014 1:36:18 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Exactly. The life jacket COULD NOT HAVE COME OFF if he was handcuffed. It might not have been tied down, all tidy, but would not have come off.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 1:37:44 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Don Corleone

Their only loyalty is to the pension.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 1:40:23 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Eric in the Ozarks

Spending a lot of time at this lake, I have to tell you that drunken stupidity is rampent there at certain times.

The water patrol boats are mostly center console due to having to deal with the big chop on that lake. If this guy was handcuffed and seated, the patrolman bringing him in might have not had him in his vision or expected him to stand up and go off a high speed water patrol boat on his own.

Perhaps Eric knows the details.

By the time he circled back, easily a minute or two might have passed due to the speed that they run to plane out above the waves.


12 posted on 06/03/2014 1:40:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“but his life jacket fell off when he hit the water”!
Yeah!!!?


13 posted on 06/03/2014 1:41:16 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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"Highway Patrol Sgt. Paul Reinsch said Monday officials are investigating whether Ellingson fell or jumped and why his life vest came off."

Well, if those are the only two possibilities being investigated of how Ellingson ended up in the water dead, the Missouri Patrol could just do a coin toss to decide.

14 posted on 06/03/2014 1:41:59 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Authorities said Ellingson was handcuffed and wearing a life jacket when he went off the boat, but his life jacket fell off when he hit the water.

His life jacket fell off?

Pull the other one bub, it has bells on it.

15 posted on 06/03/2014 1:45:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: KC Burke

this link to a local report
http://www.lakenewsonline.com/article/20140602/NEWS/140609834
seems to say that the charter boater that stopped to help verifies that first by pole and then by jumping in to where he nearly drowned himself the officer did his best to try and save the guy. Lake of the Ozarks is not a placid lake.


16 posted on 06/03/2014 1:47:46 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Mastador1

At worse it sounds like negligence on the part of police. That’s a far cry from outright murder no matter what the OWS FReeper “consensus” dictates.


17 posted on 06/03/2014 1:48:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I live on a lake in Ks. Wildlife person grabbed a neighbor on the lake and forced him to take his boat to the ramp. He accused him with boating while intoxicated but didn’t have the breathalyzer. He held him until the County Sherriff deputies arrived to administer a blood test. They then made the 70+ guy walk home a mile or so in 100 degree weather. The test came back 0.00. My dealings with the Kansas Wildlife and Parks was always positive but it seems like we have a new game in town.


18 posted on 06/03/2014 1:50:10 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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If I was to be handcuffed for operating a boat while drinking, and to be transported by a boat and a single cop, I would protest the danger of that, and surely the cop didn’t handcuff his hands behind him?

Here is more, “”Reinsch said Ellingson, who was handcuffed behind his back, stood up while being transported on a 29-foot Donza power cruiser boat “”——”Ellingson was wearing a life jacket but it did not stay on him after he went into the water. Reinsch said the patrol uses different types of lifejackets and it was likely the vest type, which snaps in front.
He was placed in a seat but was not secured. “There are no seatbelts in the boat,” Reinsch said.”

“The officer and Ellingson were the only people on the boat. Reinsch said he was not sure how fast the boat was going because of factors like the boat model, traffic and water conditions.”


19 posted on 06/03/2014 2:07:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: cripplecreek; KC Burke
Agreed.

It seems inexplicable how this could have happened, except...I have no idea what type of life vest they used (some do not have armholes - they just go around your neck, and cover your chest, with a buckle strap across the back - that could easily come off, especially if it wasn't securely fastened, which might be likely if the "perp" was resisting arrest, and intoxicated. He was prepared for a possible boating accident, NOT a feet-first leap overboard)...and it seems there were many people attempting to rescue the young man.

If the officer was alone (as the article says), he could not leave the "perp" un-handcuffed...that also begs the question, why was the officer patrolling alone, though? and what happened to the kid's boat?

But foul play or egregious/vicious police behavior, I don't think so.

20 posted on 06/03/2014 2:09:56 PM PDT by 88keys (broken glass GOP; it matters, replace the Dems. 2014!!)
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