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To: rktman

If everyone in the world does EXACTLY what you demand, how much cooler will it be after 20 year?

Answer: A fraction of a degree.


7 posted on 06/04/2014 5:55:21 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

I asked my global warming friend, “What is the difference between a 67 degree earth and a 69 degree earth? What is the exact temp that the earth SHOULD be?”


23 posted on 06/04/2014 6:27:41 AM PDT by Bucky14 (And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling kids!)
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To: DManA

“If everyone in the world does EXACTLY what you demand, how much cooler will it be after 20 year?

Answer: A fraction of a degree.”

Answer: You don’t know. This is the trap the warmists fall into all the time. In order to know, you could conduct an experiment and find out for sure. That’s what real science is all about.

By the way, they aren’t warmists. They are ‘watermelons’ - green on the outside, red (commie) on the inside.

Anybody can build an experiment that shows anthropomorphic CO2 has no measurable impact on the mean air temp of the planet.

CO2 makes up 3 in 1,000,000 molecules in the atmosphere. Using an incandescent light bulb as a thermal energy source (this is cheaper than constructing a nuclear fusion reaction), then create an ‘atmosphere’ identical in the molecular make to Earth’s. Introduce CO2 in increments of 1 ppm until you measure a change in the temperature of the air.

That you haven’t seen any of these experiments conducted, it is because there’s no link whatsoever between CO2, NO, SO, SO2, NH4 or any ‘greenhouse’ gas and a rise in the air temp. None. It HAS been tried, and it never works.

Unless and until you introduce particles into the atmosphere that reflect long and short wave radiant energy back to the thermal energy source, you won’t effect a change in the mean air temp. CO2 doesn’t ‘hold’ heat in close to the Earth, and it doesn’t reflect any back out into Space either.

A greenhouse is something that prevents convection, which traps heat. If you punch a hole in the greenhouse, convection occurs and the heat escapes.

Gravity is what holds the atmosphere to the surface of the earth. That’s it. There’s no invisible cover that holds it on there. Go aboard any ship with a CO2 fire suppression system and check out the room that holds the banks of CO2 bottles.

One of the most important safety devices in that room is a flimsy metal plate at the bottom of the door to that small compartment.

It’s there because if you find yourself locked in that room, and the bottles leak, eventually the CO2 will ‘pile up’ in the compartment and displace all the O2.

The ‘kickplate’ allows you to create a hole in the door so that the CO2 will leave the space and prevent it from displacing the oxygen.

Thermodynamics, and Newton and Einstein, say that matter isn’t created or destroyed, and since all energy is matter, then the same goes for energy.

With planetary thermo, the culprit in changes in air temp is the Sun. The rate at which it generates thermal energy isn’t a constant. Sometimes it throws off more thermal energy, and sometimes it throws off less thermal energy.

It is more reasonable to assume the sun has changed than it is adding one more CO2 molecule to a million other atmospheric molecules is raising (or lowering) the mean air temp.

I can create an experiment to prove this is true and you can get the same results no matter where you conduct the experiment. It even works in a deep freezer.

Put an incandescent light on a dimmer switch. Hold your hand close to it, but not touching. Put the dimmer on the low setting. Record what you feel. Put the dimmer on the max high setting. Record what you feel.

Use any combination of gases you’d like around, in any quantity and combination you like between your hand and the bulb, the effect is going to be the same.

I would recommend not using gases that oxygenate readily in the presence of electricity, however.

I actually believe the government uses the GW hoax to precisely measure the gullibility of the general public for use in creating public policy.

It’s their way of making money through environmental activism, and at the same time scientifically measuring what exactly they can get away with.

It’s so flimsy a lie, and yet we are on the verge of appropriating trillions of dollars globally using this trope as a justification.

AGW is the phrenology of our time. The ‘pet rock’. The bell-bottom pants, afro, and ‘fro pick’ of this decade’s discourse. Everyone is raising money to ‘Save Ferris’, but Ferris is out catching a day game at Wrigley Field.


57 posted on 06/04/2014 11:40:28 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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