[wagglebee]

Banns of marriage were REQUIRED throughout western Europe by the early 13th century and were codified into law by governments over the next few centuries. English Common Law regulated marriage long before American independence and it is absurd to think that that Founding Fathers would have EVER viewed same-sex marriage as permissible (they considered homosexuality to be a serious and even capital offense. Marriage is not a "big government" issue, it has been a function of governments for centuries.

This nonsense about getting the government out of marriage is just another libertarian ploy to advance the leftist agenda through appeasement.

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[frogjerk]

This nonsense about getting the government out of marriage is just another libertarian ploy to advance the leftist agenda through appeasement.

BINGO!

Tearing down a pillar and foundation of Western Civilization to appease immorality doesn't make a lick of sense.

[HMS Surprise]

You don’t get it do you? It’s the government that will ultimately FORCE your preacher to marry Danny and Frank to keep HIS job. Grow a brain. If a preacher starts marrying gays he won’t have much of a congregation left, and you are ALWAYS free to move to the next church. You want government in YOUR church? Really?

[frogjerk]

Q: Why was this good for all of human history up until about 15 years ago but today it is somehow broken?

A: The homosexuals and their supporters have gained a great deal of power in the last 15 years.

[trisham]

This nonsense about getting the government out of marriage is just another libertarian ploy to advance the leftist agenda through appeasement

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Do conservatives and libertarians have less and less in common as time goes on, or were their actual beliefs less discernible in past years?

[Gene Eric]

>> just another libertarian ploy t

It’s not a nefarious ploy, wagglebee.

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