This is called Argument by assertion. It doesn't really work, unless you have the knee-pad media behind you.
I don't see that Obama's particular situation has any bearing on that of Cruz, which, like i said, is pretty simple, no matter how folks try to muddy it up with mile-long posts.
Actually, it has everything to do with Obama's situation. The crux of the argument against him is that his birth certificate is fraudulent and he wasn't born in Hawaii. If that's the case, he's not a natural born citizen (although according to US law at the time, it's even questionable if he is a US citizen at all, unless he was naturalized later).
The people questioning Cruz appear to be a subset of those questioning Obama. Some of the others may have abandoned their previous position in favor of Cruz, because they figure it's a moot point now. Or they may have done so for ideological reasons.
But, there won't be people searching through posting histories and determining if someone opposed Obama and are not supporting Cruz. Instead, they'll be asking: why did you oppose Obama on NBC grounds, and not Cruz?
If Cruz goes down this path, he has to be ready to answer this question. And he'll have to throw a lot of people under the bus: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S.
There were plenty of attempts to educate Millie about this issue. I myself have posted the CATO link to her, more than once.
I've read it, and I thought it was interesting. And maybe she read it. But, has it ever occurred to you that she just doesn't agree with it? I like the CATO Institute and Ilya Shapiro, but they aren't the last word on the subject.
Claiming that settles the issue isn't much different than the claim that 97% of scientists believe that global warming is being caused by man. First, it's a tortured statistic, and second -- consensus doesn't prove anything.
And you're surprised that she got banned?
Honestly, I am. I thought Jim was above that.
No, it's an argument backed up by the simple truth.
"Actually, it has everything to do with Obama's situation. The crux of the argument against him is that his birth certificate is fraudulent and he wasn't born in Hawaii. If that's the case, he's not a natural born citizen (although according to US law at the time, it's even questionable if he is a US citizen at all, unless he was naturalized later)."
All of which has nothing to do with Ted Cruz. Was Cruz ever naturalized? No. Therefore, he's natural born.
"The people questioning Cruz appear to be a subset of those questioning Obama. Some of the others may have abandoned their previous position in favor of Cruz, because they figure it's a moot point now. Or they may have done so for ideological reasons.
I don't know about any of that; I really haven't kept up with the birther threads. Well, that's not exactly true.....one of them got pretty funny recently, and I read that one.
"But, there won't be people searching through posting histories and determining if someone opposed Obama and are not supporting Cruz. Instead, they'll be asking: why did you oppose Obama on NBC grounds, and not Cruz?
If Cruz goes down this path, he has to be ready to answer this question. And he'll have to throw a lot of people under the bus: CNN Poll: Quarter doubt Obama was born in U.S."
Well, then, I guess we should get good and scared and not do anything to provoke the left and their lapdog press. Forget Cruz; maybe we can find a nice mild-mannered candidate like Romney. /S
"I've read it, and I thought it was interesting. And maybe she read it. But, has it ever occurred to you that she just doesn't agree with it? I like the CATO Institute and Ilya Shapiro, but they aren't the last word on the subject."
They don't have to be; here's another link for you. As for Millie, it wasn't my call, so it doesn't matter what I think. Bottom line: she was warned and chose to ignore it.
Yes, Ted Cruz Can Be Born In Canada And Still Become President of the U.S.
"Claiming that settles the issue isn't much different than the claim that 97% of scientists believe that global warming is being caused by man. First, it's a tortured statistic, and second -- consensus doesn't prove anything."
Global warming is a hoax and is not backed up by fact. Ted Cruz's NBC status is backed up by fact. Do you get that?
"Honestly, I am. I thought Jim was above that."
Well, if you're going to talk about him behind his back, don't you think you should ping him?