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Sen. Lindsey Graham Wins GOP Nod in South Carolina [How Did We Get This Catastrophe?]
CBSNews ^ | June 10, 2014

Posted on 06/10/2014 9:24:49 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Kenny

“He probably shouldn’t be crowing quite so loud or someone’s probably going to pick up on his underwhelming victory.”

I don’t think Graham really cared whether he got 52% of the vote or 74% of the vote.

He got what he needed and now the worthless POS is on his way back to DC and it’ll be another six long years of watching this asswipe undercut the GOP.


21 posted on 06/10/2014 9:57:39 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: kevao
Gramnesty needed 50% +1 vote to win outright tonight and avoid a runoff, which he did. Even if all the votes of every one of his challengers had gone to just one challenger, Gramnesty still would have received over 50% of the vote and won outright.

Is there a single instance when 6 (or more) candidates ran against an incumbent in a primary and forced a runoff?

22 posted on 06/10/2014 10:01:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Steelfish

I hope this will be the last we hear (and we heard it until our ears bled) about how packing the primary field is a sure fire way to keep an incumbent under 50, drag him into a run off, and then beat him.

just because it worked for cruz doesn’t mean it will ever work again, anywhere else.

my God, some of the people here were relentless on that point. relentlessly wrong, as it turns out.


23 posted on 06/10/2014 10:09:58 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: BradyLS
If folks split the vote, that’s what they can expect. Most of the time.

South Carolina provides for a runoff. Runoffs are supposed to make vote splitting safe.

In this case, the sum total of the vote splitters didn't add up to 50%. If it had, then Graham would have been forced into a runoff with the most popular of the vote splitters' candidates. Then, assuming the vote splitters could be bothered to turn out for the runoff and vote for the second guy, the third+ having been eliminated, the second guy would have won, and Grahamnesty would be gone.

24 posted on 06/10/2014 10:14:04 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Zhang Fei
Is there a single instance when 6 (or more) candidates ran against an incumbent in a primary and forced a runoff?

There was little dust-up in 2012 in Texas, in which eight candidates went after the GOP-e's guy (who was not an incumbent), and the GOP-e guy lost badly in the runoff.

Results[edit]

Primary[edit]

Republican primary results[58]
Party Candidate Votes %
Republican David Dewhurst 624,170 44.6%
Republican Ted Cruz 479,079 34.2%
Republican Tom Leppert 186,675 13.3%
Republican Craig James 50,211 3.6%
Republican Glenn Addison 22,888 1.6%
Republican Lela Pittenger 18,028 1.3%
Republican Ben Gambini 7,193 0.5%
Republican Curt Cleaver 6,649 0.5%
Republican Joe Argis 4,558 0.3%
Totals 1,399,451 100%

Runoff[edit]

Republican runoff results[59]
Party Candidate Votes %
Republican Ted Cruz 631,316 56.8%
Republican David Dewhurst 480,165 43.2%
Totals 1,111,481 100%

25 posted on 06/10/2014 10:31:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Steelers6

It is truly stunning how easily people let themselves be lied to. Or how willingly.

How does a person look at that mans public comments and positions and then vote for him? Especially when there are alternatives?

Not a single one of those people has any right at all to complain about what the GOP has done to America, nor what they will do. they had ample chance to help correct it and instead willingly chose to help.


26 posted on 06/10/2014 10:36:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Steelfish

Thanks for nothing SC. You deserve Linda but the rest of us don’t. SC joins AZ, OH, and KY as RINO HQ.


27 posted on 06/10/2014 10:39:23 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: kevao

True, but having so many candidates really dilutes the message that someone would be a viable and appropriate alternative to Graham...instead he just dominated the race and the rest of the candidates were just background noise because there were so many of them...and with the nearest challenger having 14% apparently none of them were very organized at all. It’s a shame...out of all of the incumbents that it would have been beneficial to defeat, this guy would have been the most beneficial to replace. Oh well...


28 posted on 06/10/2014 10:39:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cynwoody

Thanks for the education! I forget important things like that from time to time.


29 posted on 06/10/2014 10:40:20 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Three works pretty well in forcing a runoff if one of the two really resonates. In MS, unfortunately, the third guy took just enough votes to force a runoff for McDaniel. Had it be the other way around, with McDaniel a point down on the incumbent, we would have been thrilled to have that guy in the race. As it is, it prevented the out and out victory.

I agree...a crowded field doesn’t help. It also doesn’t help that none of them got any real traction. There just wasn’t anyone to be ‘the one’ be able to take on Graham.


30 posted on 06/10/2014 11:03:24 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: kevao

Unless some of Lindsey’s went to a stronger opponent, which would have likely happened if all the energy had been poured into just one strong candidate who could articulate the conservative message. Need to think smart.


31 posted on 06/10/2014 11:05:02 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Kenny

55-56% in a 7 candidate race is far from underwhelming. We were assured over and over by FR experts on SC elections that it was actually just great having a large number of challengers, because that would keep Graham under the requisite 50%.


32 posted on 06/10/2014 11:10:21 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Norm Lenhart

Too many assumptions there. People today are mostly uneducated. Large majorities won’t be able to tell the name of the US Chief Justice. They don’t read. They are fed one-liner campaign commercials. Women voters skew things up. They tend to vote Democratic and vote “soft”:i.e. Graham-type candidate. Even without looking at the internal poll numbers there’s no question Graham would have won a lop-side female vote.


33 posted on 06/10/2014 11:13:57 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: zeestephen
Does South Carolina have an open primary?

We do, but there was also a democrat primary taking place as well.

34 posted on 06/10/2014 11:42:02 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Steelfish

Not at all. Every word you wrote reinforces fully my assertion of how willing people are to be led.

The fact that they voted at all puts the majority of them in a ‘smarter’ more aware bracket than most. Remember this was a republican primary. Most of them can read and aren’t full subscribers to the gibdsmedat mentality of the Dems. Or at least shouldn’t be.

Ultimately there is no excuse to be an uninformed voter. None. Any assertion that there is is itself an excuse. Are there uninformed voters? Sure. Some of these morons just hit the party button as usual without a conscious thought given. Which is exactly WHY we have a Uniparty system with closet case Republicans.


35 posted on 06/10/2014 11:47:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Steelfish

Linda reached out to democrats, encouraging them to vote for him in the primary. And they did.


37 posted on 06/10/2014 11:53:48 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: Steelfish
Goober's like a festering hemorrhoid. He just won't go away.

Not that I've ever had one.... Besides this Goober.

38 posted on 06/11/2014 12:03:47 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: cynwoody
The problem was none of the candidates were running against Graham i.e. vocalizing his short comings, or censures, or down right deceit. They were all very cordial and complementary of the Sr. Senator as if planning for his victory and not wanting to get on his bad side........
39 posted on 06/11/2014 2:04:42 AM PDT by JParris
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To: Steelfish

As much as I’m enjoying Cantor’s loss I would have traded that seat for this one. I real thought there was a chance of forcing a runoff.


40 posted on 06/11/2014 3:41:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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