"Intersting" Noob falls for classic blunder and gets the ZOT! Ted Cruz Gives Up His Canadian Citiz

Vanity | 6-11-2014 | Sam Troy

[Darksheare]

“Fly you fools!” -said in the car.

[Darksheare]

Oh, OP of this thread ate it, but it was a little delayed.
Somebody locked the spare parts for the Debice in the toolbox.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3166596/posts?page=104#104
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3166596/posts?page=112#112

http://freerepublic.com/~samtroy/
http://freerepublic.com/tag/by:samtroy/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

[no-to-illegals]

That dang spare parts issue again? Well at least it wasn’t my fault this time.

[Darksheare]

It wasn’t us!
*crowd cheers*

[Darksheare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF7b_MNEIAg

[riverdawg]

Here is the relevant definition of citizenship at birth, according to US law:
http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents
The part that pertains to Ted Cruz is here:
“A Child Born Outside the U.S. is a Citizen at Birth IF...
One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is before November 14, 1986 but after October 10, 1952 AND
The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least ten years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, at least five of which were after his or her 14th birthday.”

[riverdawg]

Here is the relevant definition of citizenship at birth, according to US law:

http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

[riverdawg]

"Since the founding of the country, the United States does not care one iota for what other countries consider their citizens. Citizenship is not some chromosome or germ that is passed from parent to child. Citizenship is what the law says it is. What Cuba or Canada consider a citizen is irrelevant, the laws and constitution of the United States could care less. If Gambia sent you a passport in the mail declaring you a Gambian citizen, do you really think that it would have any meaning, or would you go shrieking into night in a cold sweat, worried about your status. Any normal thinking American would just toss it in the garbage, and think nothing of it.”

Thank you. I have tried to explain this to many people here on FR and to several friends who have “dual citizenship” in the US and some other country. This is especially important for such people who are traveling abroad. My advice to them is: “always travel on your US passport”.

[WildHighlander57]

Many thanks for that post!

Sums it up neatly.

[Bikkuri]

Wow.. gone for a day and missed all of the action >.< ;^)

Ideas about new ZoT graphics?

[visually_augmented]

Are you saying that if a person was a US citizen and considered a citizen of another country by the other country’s law (held under the laws of that second country), that you would be OK with that person as POTUS?

That sounds absurd to me....

What if this same person did not denounce his citizenship with the second country? Are you OK with that person being POTUS?

[nocommunists]

Fact; people who have an Irish born grandparents or Italian born grandparents are considered citizens of Ireland or Italy no matter where they are born. if you are born in America but have grandparents from Ireland or Italy you are considered a citizen of Ireland and Italy. You can’t be a duel citizen and be president. Unless Italy and Ireland change their laws people with Irish or Italian parents or grandparents cannot be president of the USA since they are also citizens of another country. Remember even if Obama had been born in Hawaii (a big if since most agree that the birth certificate is fake) his father was a foreigner and foreign citizenship was pronounced on Obama from birth.

This is why I am lucky my great great grandparents were born in Ireland and not my grandparents. I am not considered a citizen under their laws so I could run for president if I wanted.

We need to check every candidate for duel citizenship before election time to avoid a disaster like Obama. If another country considers you a citizen you cannot be president. This excludes a lot of Americans with Irish and Italian grandparents. Unless Italy and Ireland change their laws, these people cannot be president.

[Darksheare]

Welcome to FR.
Who were you previously?

And it’s dual, not duel.

[Plummz]

Actually Rafael Sr was a Canadian citizen at the time of Ted’s birth. He apparently was no longer Cuban. Rafael Sr did not become an American until 2005.