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To: ansel12

So you support America no matter what she does? You support our abortion and homosexual advocacy all over the world? You think it’s just ducky every time we aid Muslims? You love our overspending that could ultimately create a world wide economic crisis?

It’s not a black and white thing, ansel12. I support America when she does good. I do not support her when she’s a cause for evil. This administration is doing evil.


97 posted on 06/14/2014 4:52:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

We don’t have to attack them, and that particular straw man is a favourite of the isolationists. There are plenty of other ways to use our influence abroad, and I haven’t seen a single person on FR who has advocated landing a single American boot into Ukraine, or flying a single warplane over the Donbass.

And Russia is a threat the same way Nazi Germany and the USSR were threats. They at no point were in a position to launch a full-scale invasion of America, but they had the potential to do so if we left the world for their taking. It’s possible that we could accept the potential rise of a new superpower if, and only if, it was a free and open democracy.

But Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and today’s Russia are not free and open democracies. They were and are controlled by unaccountable, indecipherable and aggressive strongmen with self-proclaimed revanchist and expansionistic leanings. Who knows what someone like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Putin have as their true ultimate goal? Being unaccountable and immensely powerful is a dangerous mix.

That is why America has an interest in suppressing the Russian revanchists, not to mention the knowledge that such strongmen have the capability to commit terrible crimes and kill mercilessly were we not there to stop them. I’m not saying the other countries shouldn’t shoulder a larger proportion of the defence burden, but we shouldn’t hang them out to dry either.

We are nowhere near 1984 either. Not even close. And the EU bureaucrats are appointed by elected representatives of the EU and by the national governments that are elected. That’s like saying America is controlled by unelected bureaucrats because Holder, Kerry and Hagel weren’t elected.


101 posted on 06/14/2014 6:00:33 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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