Posted on 07/04/2014 2:57:07 PM PDT by NYer
Catholic ping!
“In 1776, numerous individuals, families, committees, congregations, localities, and states had already proclaimed their independence, and almost no remaining imperial structure could continue to operate with any legitimacy in what would very soon become 13 states.”
How long before America becomes that in relation to the District of Criminals?
The restrictions on Catholic immigration to the USA were lifted 1790 I believe.
They forgot to mention the Ursuline Academy in New Orleans.
I thought Maryland was the Catholic colony?
Another worthy ping on the 4th of July. Also an Edmund Burke ping.
Can U.S. citizens declare their independence from Obama?
Give it a try!
So did I. A son and I were just reading about Maryland in U.S. History. Apparently it started as a refuge for Catholics but didn’t stay that way.
Catholic immigration didn’t really get kicked off until the mid 1840s, by 1850 they were about 5% of the population.
Apparently not seeing as he was elected and reelected according to those who counted the votes.
I had no idea of this little tidbit of information.
It became that later. But not at first.
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Maryland was founded as a refuge for English Catholics. (Catholicism was illegal in Britain from the Reformation to the 19th century.) The Puritans eventually took over Maryland and made Catholicism illegal there.
Over the past 2 years, I have been researching my family on ancestry.com, using nothing more than "oral history". Of particular interest are my maternal great, great grandparents who immigrated from Europe, as Catholics. His family was killed in the Siege of Paris (1870-71). Born in 1856, my great great grandfather was found by French sailors clinging to the body of his mother and taken on board their ship. As they traveled, they saw to his education in various locales. By the time he reached adulthood, according to the oral record, he spoke 7 languages and could read Sanskrit. I am a polyglot and attribute this gift to him. Once returned to France, he set sail for Ireland and served as a translator in the Irish Royal Courts. While in Ireland, he met and married. Bride and groom then immigrated to New York.
Working from that history, I had only census records to trace what happened once they arrived. The records indicate they took up residence in New York City's infamous "Hell's Kitchen"; essentially, a ghetto for Irish Catholic immigrants. Despite the linguistic abilities, the only position my French great great grandfather could land was as a painter and, later, a meat packer. It was no mean feat to find them on the 1900 census but I eventually discovered them under a strange spelling of the family name. Initially perplexed, I vocalized the name and began to laugh. It was the family name spoken with an Irish brogue. Not surprisingly, my Irish great great grandmother was illiterate and the census taker recorded the name phonetically.
The point of this comment is to point out the prejudice against Catholics that persisted even as late as the turn of the 20th century.
On this Fourth of July, I look back at those who came before me, their struggles and persistence in establishing a new life in America. Through their sacrifices, I now have a fairly comfortable and stable life. Would that more Americans would explore their ancestry to better appreciate their present lifestyle.
One of the best films I have ever seen on the topic of Irish immigrants is Far and Away, starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Cruise and Kidman play Irish immigrants seeking their fortune in 1890s America, eventually taking part in the Land Run of 1893. While it does not focus on religion, it definitely provides some insight into the struggle of Irish immigrants at that time.
The vast majority was not of “Anglo-Saxon-Celtic descent”. There was a huge amount of immigration from Germany in the second half of the 17th century, as pepole fled the wars and the economic collapse engendered by the wars. Pennsylvania had a german majority, and many colonies had signicant German minorities.
There may have been more colonist of English descent than German, in 1776, but it was by no means overwhelming.
.. shall not be infringed
Kinda like that, I reckon.
Bump!
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