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Why are police shooting so many family dogs?
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Posted on 07/07/2014 8:39:22 AM PDT by chessplayer

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To: woodbutcher1963
I think the problem starts with the dogs owner.

I don't. I think the problem starts with the militarization of law enforcement; the willingness of the State to engage in open tyranny and murder; and the belief of those who have entrenched themselves within the ranks of said State, that they are now institutionally beyond the danger of open murderous revolt by the vengeance-driven general public against their specific persons. There are a multitudinous array of different sociopolitical miscalculations. Not all are fatal, but some kinds of corrective social changes always have been to those who believe it cannot happen to them. #RomanianTermLimits.
41 posted on 07/07/2014 9:29:29 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: defconw
"Apparently any idiot can be a cop these days."

Apparently any idiot can be a police supervisor or local government official who does not DEMAND accountability of his police. Jail time for police thugs as well as for "civilian" thugs.

Perhaps the possibility of two or three weeks in the "general population" jail will motivate cops to think a bit before they act.

42 posted on 07/07/2014 9:29:52 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: chessplayer

Thugs with Badges (whom I differentiate from actual police officers who enforce the law, respect the Constitution, and who engender the respect of the people they serve) are SOCIOPATHS.

The behavior of abusing animals is one of the hallmarks of sociopaths (along with the belief that rules don’t apply to them - they are above the law) and a fair number of these sociopaths are obviously in uniform.

http://voices.yahoo.com/10-sure-signs-dealing-sociopath-8765275.html


43 posted on 07/07/2014 9:30:58 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: woodbutcher1963
I think the problem starts with the dogs owner.

If anyone comes on our property and shoots our dogs then we'll get to see whether or not a shiny piece of metal pinned to someone's chest will stop a .50 round.

44 posted on 07/07/2014 9:35:00 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: MeganC

If police shot my dog for no apparent reason, they better hide their name tags.


45 posted on 07/07/2014 9:37:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: BarbM

Here in Pittsburgh we had a couple of weeks of public mourning and a big over-the-top funeral for a police dog who was stabbed to death by a drugged-out suspect.

Since then we’ve passed a new state law increasing penalties for killing a police dog.

Raising the very real possibility there will soon be someone in prison doing more time for killing a dog than the guy in the next cell got for killing a human being.


46 posted on 07/07/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: chessplayer

The headline remind me of the liberals screaming for gun control because “children” are killing “children” with guns. They don’t tell you that the “children” are gang-banging thugs that just happen to be teenagers.

Family pets my a$$. I shot a lot of dogs during my career, probably 99% were loose pit bulls that were chasing, biting or otherwise acting aggressively towards people. I NEVER shot a “family pet” although I was bitten by a few thanks to irresponsible owners who told me: “oh, don’t worry, sparky doesn’t bite.”

WND published this? NPR would be proud.


47 posted on 07/07/2014 9:45:41 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: BwanaNdege

I think we are surrounded by idiots, by design.


48 posted on 07/07/2014 9:46:57 AM PDT by defconw (parties have clearly lost their minds on this.)
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To: chessplayer
You and I know we're not supposed to threaten a cop but A DOG CAN NOT KNOW THAT.
We need better guidelines on what exactly constitutes a threat and we need a stand your ground law for dogs when they are where they're supposed to be, on their owners property.

49 posted on 07/07/2014 9:48:20 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: mrmeyer

The local police forces are rapidly becoming federalized, part of the “National Civilian Defense Force”, which is to be “as well funded, and as well trained” as the military service establishment. Because they are NOT formally organized as an army, they may bypass the prohibition against the “Posse Comitatus” deployment of Federal troops to maintain civil order.

This is but the beginning of intimidation against citizens, bordering on terrorism exercised against members of the community. Paraplegics hauled out of their wheelchairs, females getting beat up at the side of the road, and various other examples of gratuitous violence, often for the sake of violence alone, being applied to “let them know who’s boss”.

Jack-booted thugs with a badge and gun are still thugs.


50 posted on 07/07/2014 9:52:30 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

It appears the problem is that an alarming number of these pet murders didn’t happen in a “’hood” full of gang bangers and vicious dogs running loose in the streets, but in burbs and rural areas where the dogs-whatever their breed-were family pets either chasing squirrels in the woods or hanging out in their fenced yards-also known as “private property”.

Some years ago when I lived in a ‘burb, a neighbor’s Norwegian Elkhound was shot in the fenced yard by a cop who hopped her fence chasing a kid through the neighborhood for dropping a water balloon on the patrol car from a tree along the curb. The cop was fired, and successfully sued by my neighbor till his eyes fell out, which is what should happen.

I live in an isolated rural area-dogs and guns are the first 911 here because the other 911 could easily take 1/2 hour or more to get here, so mastiffs of all kinds are the dog-du-jour here for security along with donkeys and llamas-properties are fenced and gates here are large and kept locked...

There’s no excuse for shooting a pet on private property-both the place and the pet belong to the owner, period, and the idiot who does such a thing deserves a lawsuit, I don’t give a damn who they are...


51 posted on 07/07/2014 9:52:36 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: BarbM

Yeah, but it’s MY pet.


52 posted on 07/07/2014 9:57:54 AM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: Texan5

If a cop shoots somebodies pet on private property where they have entered without a warrant they should be prosecuted and sued. The policeman in this situation should be removed from the force.

However, these incidents are still not that common. When they do happen they get publicized like great white shark attacks.

My point is, the majority of dogs being shot by police are of the pit bull variety in a high stress situation in a bad neighborhood.


53 posted on 07/07/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: chessplayer

Dogs don’t shoot back.


54 posted on 07/07/2014 10:09:46 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: driftless2; chessplayer
The “pigs”?

How else would you name tyrannical enemies of the people?

Police are no longer servants, but aspire to be our masters. Just like 1984.

55 posted on 07/07/2014 10:09:59 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: woodbutcher1963
"Most of these dogs are not lap dogs, poodles, golden retrievers or beagles."

That is a fact not in evidence.

And eve if it were true, the circumstances matter greatly.

56 posted on 07/07/2014 10:13:53 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Robert Teesdale
"There are a multitudinous array of different sociopolitical miscalculations. Not all are fatal, but some kinds of corrective social changes always have been to those who believe it cannot happen to them. #RomanianTermLimits. "

Brilliant insight.

57 posted on 07/07/2014 10:15:49 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: chessplayer

Why are police shooting so many family dogs?

Why are police accepting so many substandard officers?
Aren’t reduced standards great?


58 posted on 07/07/2014 10:24:58 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: chessplayer
The book published last year, Rise of the Warrior Cops, gave an explanation for the frequent dog killings.

Its called SWAT-Special Weapons and Tactics, borrowed from Military Weapons and Tactics.

Either way, all potential threats and distractions have to be neutralized. A barking dog is a distraction, even if he poses no threat. Or a loose dog that is not threatening an officer, but since the dog is loose, he distracts the officer's attention

So it began as a military tactic then became a SWAT tactic. As time went by and more and more officers served on SWAT, the tactic shifted to all police activity & enforcement

59 posted on 07/07/2014 10:34:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: GraceG

[ Whats the problem, dogs are wrecking the environment. Did you know that as part of Cap & Trade, that there will be a national license fee for dogs of $500/ year, plus fees.

Seriously???, No Seriously, Citation Needed...

Well, I made that up, but hey, with NSA checking all our emails and posts, they may get the idea:-(


60 posted on 07/07/2014 11:07:21 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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