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China thinks it can defeat America in battle
The Week ^ | July 7, 2014 | David Axe

Posted on 07/07/2014 9:55:17 AM PDT by driftdiver

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To: driftdiver

Barry at the helm and transgender soldiers? yeah. no problem


21 posted on 07/07/2014 10:12:16 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: driftdiver
Can't say we weren't warned.


22 posted on 07/07/2014 10:12:57 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
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23 posted on 07/07/2014 10:14:41 AM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: driftdiver

And they are thinking about it more now than ever. Nobody wins.

thank obastard


24 posted on 07/07/2014 10:15:15 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Vigilanteman

Conflict is inevitable when a nation believes it has a window of oppotunity to further a vital national interest, and also believes the window is closing. That’s why Helmuth von Moltke started WW1 a century ago. War is also inevitable when a nation has a leader who, for whatever reason, good or bad, wants to have one. Which is why diplomacy failed in the late 1930s.

Everything else is negotiable.


25 posted on 07/07/2014 10:17:31 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Sequoyah101

They are thinking and planning to do it to their largest customer.

Should tell us something.


26 posted on 07/07/2014 10:19:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

But the bad news trumps the good news. If your enemy THINKS they can defeat you, you may have to prove to them that they can’t - That is what WW I and WW II were all about.


27 posted on 07/07/2014 10:23:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The writer also fails to mention that any strike on Taiwan would be known weeks before. Question becomes what would Obama do with that information and if history is our guide, we already know.


28 posted on 07/07/2014 10:24:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Thunder90
Two words... Multifront war... Russia invades the Baltic states the same time China hits Taiwan. North Korea invades South Korea. Iran crosses Iraq and Syria and sweeps to Israel.

Presuming we and our allies had the will, that scenario is winnable.

1. Ukraine and Finland engage the Russians, while the Poles, Czechs, and Germans press back into the Baltic States.

2. The USN and USAF turn the Formosa strait into a sea of death for all Chinese shipping, putting the PLA armor on the bottom and leaving their airborne forces to fight it out with the Taiwanese. We then drop the 101st to help secure Taipei. Taiwan would just have to eat the PLA ballistic missiles.

3. South Korea can handle North Korea on its own. Seoul will take a pounding, and we might need to toss is some tactical nukes for chuckles, but SK is militarily superior.

4. Let the Israelis nuke Iran and then press the arabs out of Israel once and for all. For good measure, force all of the Muzzies out of Lebanon and reestablish it as a Christian state homeland for all Copts.

Japan could provide naval and air support in Korea and in the Taiwan AOB.

29 posted on 07/07/2014 10:25:58 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: driftdiver

If China moved on Taiwan, nukes would not be used. All China needs to do now, is simply take it.


30 posted on 07/07/2014 10:29:33 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: driftdiver

They likely have 80 to 90 million soldier-aged single men with which to create an expeditionary and occupying force.

If the Chinese lost all of them in battle, it would likely improve the situation they currently have in China, in that there are many, many more men than women there. It’s almost the reverse problem Australia had after WWII. There were five women to every man in Australia in 1948.

Wave after wave, as it were.

The problem, of course, is equipment and logistics. You have to kit out 90 million men, and then you have to arm, feed, and transport them to where you want to occupy.

When you are done occupying, you have to ensure the local economy there doesn’t collapse such that it just adds to your problem.


31 posted on 07/07/2014 10:36:43 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: OrangeHoof
First, they demand we pay our debt...

And after we say no, we will just keep paying the interest like always?

32 posted on 07/07/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: driftdiver

China Won’t invade Taiwan

China could “win” but it would cost too much. All Taiwan has to do is lob a few cruise missiles at the Three Gorges Dam and a third of China will be underwater.

The disaster that would cause beats any gain they would get by taking over Taiwan.


33 posted on 07/07/2014 10:39:09 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: RinaseaofDs

What theyve done in the past is arm about 1/3 of the troops and tell the rest to pick a gun up off the ground.

The unarmed ones are bullet catchers.


34 posted on 07/07/2014 10:42:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hoodat

I dare you to even try to remove him from the WH you red Commies! (hoping it works....)


35 posted on 07/07/2014 10:45:18 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MNGal

> It may not matter whether China can actually defeat the US in battle. The dangerous time is when China “thinks” it can and is willing to test their theory.

ESPECIALLY with Russia as an ALLY


36 posted on 07/07/2014 10:53:13 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: qam1
Taiwan will likely fold into the mainland like Hong Kong did when the Brits pulled out. No battle required.
37 posted on 07/07/2014 10:55:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think you nailed it.
The two countries are so interconnected economically that a conflict would be devastating for both.


38 posted on 07/07/2014 10:57:06 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: driftdiver

How effective would our submarines be in the Spratleys, should China move to take them over?


39 posted on 07/07/2014 10:58:25 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TigerClaws
In other words, leading from behind. Doing nothing.

THAT'S NOT TRUE! This is important enough that even if Obama could not do it himself because of a conflict with his tee time, I'm sure he would send out SOS Kerry to scold the ChiComs on the dangers of global warming, the need for 21st Century diplomacy, proper LGBT representation, or some other urgent issue of real importance. He probably wouldn't do anything beyond that.

40 posted on 07/07/2014 10:59:09 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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